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  • #14403
    Avatar photoBig Bucks
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    Past Winners………………..win OR–2ndOR–3rdOR

    2009 – Ninetieth Minute……….140….137…137
    2008 – Naiad Du Misselot ……..130…143…133
    2007 – Burntoakboy……………128…139…133
    2006 – Sky’s The limit…………..144…140…144
    2005 – Idole First……………….131…136…136
    2004 – Monkerhostin……………147…139…165
    2003 – Xenophon………………130…133…138
    2002 – Ilnamar………………….137…132…135
    2001 – no race
    2000 – What’s Up Boys………….138…136…135

    Record of favourites…(most recent first) 000F93105

    2009 – The Polomoche 6yo, 6/1f (10th) 10-8, 145, 5/15 btn 10l behind Sentry Duty over 2m.
    2008 – County Zen 5yo, 11/2f (18th) 11-3, 134, 3rd Totesport Trophy, never raced beyond 2m.
    2007 – Copsale Lad 10yo, 6/1f, (16th) 10-12, 137, Won 3m hcap hdl @ Newbury
    2006 – No Where To Hyde, 6yo, 5/1f (FELL when beaten) 11-1, 133, 2/13 Navan, never raced beyond 2m.
    2005 – Distant Pospect 8yo, 100/30f, (9th) 10-8, 129, Won LtdIntHdle in Nov.
    2004 – Rhinestone Cowboy 8yo, 5/1f, (3rd), 11-5, 165, Won Agfa Hurdle.
    2003 – WINNER 7yo, 4/1f, 11-0, 130, AJ Martin, Won Pierse Hurdle.
    2002 – Golden Alpha 8yo, 11/2f, (26th), 10-2, 134, Won cl4 nov hdl 2m, never raced beyond 2m.
    2000 – Brandon Court 9yo, 5/1f, (5th), 9-12, 135, 2nd 22f G3 Sandown Hurdle.

    Previous Best Cheltenham Run – No significance
    Ninetieth Minute – no run
    Naiad Du Misselot – no run
    Burntoakboy – 9/20 cond hcp hdl
    Sky’s The Limit – no run
    Idole First – no run
    Monkerhostin – 2/9 22f B hcap hdl 3 runs prior (jan)
    Xenophon – no run
    Ilnamar – no run
    What’s Up Boys – PU/5 Grade 1 nov hdl 3 months prior (dec)

    Age of winner (most recent first)
    6 – 7 – 9 – 5 – 6 – 7 – 7 – 7 – 6

    Weight
    Only 1 of the last 8 winners carried over 11st to victory.
    (Top weight Kicks For Free 11-12 just beaten in 2008)
    “I still kick myself for messing up his handicap mark over hurdles last season. He surprised me when winning first time out at Kempton, and a rise of 10lb cost him victory in the Coral Cup as he was only beaten a whisker” (Paul Nicholls on Kicks For Free).

    Coming into the race – performance of winner lto – most recent first
    1111611U3

    The first 3 home in 2009 had all won lto, from 6 qualifiers.

    The obvious money-spinner shortlist has been pointed out:

    Lake Legend
    Wishfull Thinking
    Sir Harry Ormesher

    All have had 3 runs, all have 20f form, Lake Legend has been "put away" the most with an 81 day break, and all three would probably prefer dry ground and are the right kind of age.

    Chicago Grey’s been concrete-booted and Beshabar is a non-runner.

    The trio to break the money-spinner trend? All have nice-ish profiles but…

    Mamlook – his 2 more recent runs have allowed the handicapper to measure him fully.
    Time Electric – 8yo and concern is mainly the run lto over 26f on soft, unusual prep suggesting pace issues for this race.
    Deutschland – by far the most interesting…was mixing it and then some in a Grade 1 chase (Powers Gold Cup 20f good ground) not long ago, chase rating of 145 and here he is off 134, with form in big-fields in the bank. Has been give 1 hurdles run only so either this has been the plan or there’s been a problem. Slight query as to whether he will find anything up the hill as maybe he has outclassed inferior rivals for his wins. His run lto certainly suggests he can be in the mix here.

    Shortlist so far

    Lake Legend (backed)
    Wishfull Thinking
    Sir Harry Ormesher (backed)
    Deutschland

    #282444
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    Good work BB, I am very interested in and a big fan of Chicago Grey..although the weight carrying stats are obviously a worry.

    #282445
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    Deutschland hacks up! 8)

    #282447
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    Yeah would have been listed had he been off around his Irish mark but he’s been given a bit of the P’Tit Fute treatment from last year :shock: Very tough for him off 151.

    #282449
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    Ruby likely to ride the Deutsch? Slight personal reservations about his win chance but that aside he looks one of the best treated.

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    Following Sway’s defection to the Mares’ race tomorrow it’s Wishfull Thinking for me.

    #282454
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    Beshebar to miss this in favour of Aintree.

    Looked likely this was going to happen judging by recent comments…..

    #282455
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    Is Mourad running? Because if not then Ruby will be on Deutschland, who has a cracking chance imo.

    #282490
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    Mourad is now officially a non runner (RP)

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    Beshebar to miss this in favour of Aintree.

    Looked likely this was going to happen judging by recent comments…..

    Must admit I hadn’t read about any doubts and I guess none of the punters who made him one of the market movers had either. Reasons sound fairly dubious again – how likely is it that they will get soft ground at Aintree and would the sharp track suit him in any case?

    Personally, I will not be shedding a tear if the rains come on Thursday/Friday and they get no run at all out of Tataniano as well.

    #282496
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    Findlay stated openly on several occasions he was far from a certain runner due to the ground (to be fair).

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    Findlay stated openly on several occasions he was far from a certain runner due to the ground (to be fair).

    He has only won one race on ground worse than good to soft. Chances are it will be good to soft on Wednesday.

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    Deutschland has been smashed off the boards today

    Best price 10/1 now from 20/1 this morning

    #282501
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    Must have a great chance imo…..

    #282503
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    Deutschland has been smashed off the boards today

    Best price 10/1 now from 20/1 this morning

    He was being backed yesterday presumably by people in the know about Mourad. Doubtful stayer?

    #282505
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    I’m not backing him anyway

    Looks like a 2-miler to me

    #282516
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    Mourad was the ace up my sleeve. Such a pitty he ain’t running. I think Deutschland has been hammered in by default by the bookies anticipation.

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