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Just a thought, Nathan – instead of sticking Constitution Hill in multiples at 1/2, why not stick him in multiples with William Hill at the 7/2 to win one more Champion Hurdle?
He could yet then go chasing if he wins next March and if for whatever reason (career-ending injury aside) he doesn’t win next March your bet isn’t technically dead in the water – you might get another go in 2025!
Just saying!
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"“State Man is very underrated just because The Hill beat him handily. He’s a top class 2m hurdler in his own right.”
Agree GM. He must have been one of the handicap certainties of all time when he won the County.
But he has no chance of ever beating Constitution Hill if the latter stays sound.
“If you took 12s for him to only win one Champion Hurdle when does it pay out?”
Good point, RTB. I am still having to wait on Ladbrokes to pay me out on my bet on Liz Truss not being Prime Minister in December 2024.
Wouldn’t surprise me if this was State Man’s last season over hurdles though. He has plenty of size about him and looks like a fence could bring more improvement from him.
Glad connections are trying again anyway and those of IEP are going too (I think will be suited to a return to 2m and probably only went further due to Facile Vega being Mullins Supreme horse – IEP has won over 12F in France and doesn’t look short of speed). You can’t run from one horse and you can’t win if you don’t turn up and as we are dealing with horses there is no guarantee CH turns up in the same form come March.
All manner of things can go wrong and we know just how close CH came to clipping the top bar of the final flight at Cheltenham a la Annie Power and how unimpressive he was at Aintree at the business end of that race…..repeats of that and that could easily be the difference for a rival to take advantage of.
Could be an even more tactical race this time round (depending how many horses Mullins throws at the race – he has 6 of the top 9 in the betting!) and you also wonder if all the main players get to the Festival in one piece (and unless they clash beforehand) which horse will Townsend ride.
“I am still having to wait on Ladbrokes to pay me out on my bet on Liz Truss not being Prime Minister in December 2024.”
And people have to wait for endowment policies on mortgages to mature – but they eventually do.
The certainty is that CAS will be getting paid out there – and the wait will surely make it all the sweeter when he does.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"Plenty of other good races to be won by both of Willie’s horse, even if C Hill is a monster. I hope C Hill has more than 4 races this year; the Irish and Punchestown Champion hurdles must be tempting targets
At least the pay out on Truss will be just in time for Christmas. I will head straight down to the pub to raise a glass to her in gratitude.
I’d be really disappointed if Marine Nationale were sent chasing. His Supreme win was only just shy of 3 lengths slower than the Champion Hurdle on the clock and he looked very impressive.
He’d be the one I’d be most afraid of were I Henderson although I agree the Mullins pair are possibles too.
And who knows what may yet emerge.Obviously at this stage Constitution Hill is the much more likely winner but if he were beat I reckon they’d send him chasing so I think you are backing the field against him at 12/1 next March and that, for me, is a solid value proposition.
“but if he were beat I reckon they’d send him chasing so I think you are backing the field against him at 12/1 next March and that, for me, is a solid value proposition.”
Well, here’s a collector’s item – me and David Cormack in agreement on something, and a betting-related matter too.
No true racing fan wants to see Constitution Hill get beat, let alone injured, but 12/1 is just too big in this uncertain game and though it goes against the grain for any racing purist to take it, surely it’s the value in the four-outcome book with the William Hill Organisation.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"Marine Nationale Arkle bound and unless CH’s form falls off a cliff in the next couple of seasons I don’t see him ever going chasing simply because for them the only reason for it was to do the Champion Hurdle/Gold Cup double but now all three of the individuals involved are seemingly in agreement that they don’t believe he will stay the trip because of the great speed he shows at home and in his races.
I do find Buckley bemoaning people complaining over his decision to stick to hurdles a little odd when it was pretty much he himself who started the whole thing into a debate in the first place in suggesting that he wanted to try to emulate Dawn Run’s achievement……..a mare who incidently had already won a French Champion Hurdle (which is just shy of the 3m2F Gold Cup distance itself) prior to going chasing.
It was also Buckley who was giving it all the talk about going to Punchestown and taking on Honeysuckle when Constitution Hill was still a novice. Henderson soon squashed that idea.
I’ll see if I can stick the 7/2 in with the football weekend bets Ian…
Every year Mullins will race his horses in the races they have the best chance of winning
He never sets anything regard who will be running where in stone, look at Vautour for example
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“It goes against the grain for any racing purist to take it.”
True – but the mercenary in me is very tempted to take it. The only thing putting me off is RTB’s point of when exactly would Hills pay out?
“Well, here’s a collector’s item – me and David Cormack in agreement on something, and a betting-related matter too.”
…almost enough to make me change my mind
Can’t combined multiples to the “special” but doesn’t seem to be a stake limit either so that’s something at least if playing
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just wondering if there is a longer thread about one horse on TRF..
I say this a a relative newbie..On me local footie club forum, there is a 2300 odd page thread on stadium re-development…
Using council cash..
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