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- October 26, 2010 at 20:14 #324767
Can’t see how he can carry on after this?
Also can’t see how anyone would want to vote ‘no’ with the facts we have?
The one ‘no’ vote we have so far must either be…Paul Roy himself, or…Harry Findlay hitting the wrong button!
October 26, 2010 at 20:47 #324771Harry the dog was going around Tattersalls today giving out photocopies of Alan Lee’s anti-Roy article in the Times. It’s getting ugly between those boys!
October 26, 2010 at 20:48 #324772I don’t think it is quite as clear cut.
Doesn’t everyone within racing have a conflict of interest?
When they want to know if a big new race is wanted/needed they often get owners/trainers/jockeys saying "yes". It’s in their best interests to say yes. The more big races there are, the less competitive each race will be, the easier it is for trainers/owners to make money. It’s in their interests to have as uncompetitive racing as possible, provided it’s well paid.
It’s also within owners/trainers/jockeys/stable lads best interests to get as much levy as possible. More levy more profit. Where as, it’s in bookmakers best interests to pay as little levy as possible.That’s why we get every faction fighting their own corner.
Paul Roy just has another "best interest". Although the scale of it probably does make too much of a "conflict".
Value Is EverythingOctober 26, 2010 at 20:55 #324773I don’t agree.
Provided his managers have discretion what they invest in and he wasn’t involved in the decision, I don’t see there’s a problem.
October 26, 2010 at 21:02 #324774
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With the greatest respect, Ginge, that’s nonsense.
October 26, 2010 at 21:14 #324776I’s not whether or not he was involved in the decision Zebra, it is the position that he now finds himself in that I think is the issue for many.
GT – not often I agree with Armchair Jockey but I’m with him this time!
October 26, 2010 at 22:00 #324789
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Its not just this issue although hoprfully its the last one, his disdain for the customer which came out very clear on channel 4.
And you have to ask, what actually has been achieved by the man and the whole organisation during his time there.
I cant really think of a whole lot
October 26, 2010 at 22:13 #324791How can anyone vote no? Like Zilzal said, what has this man actually achieved? The creation of another body (RFC) to do some work alongside his pathetic weekly press releases that antagonise bookmakers. £100,000 a year this man is paid for a 2 day week, is it? Just get rid of him…. and ban him from owning horses here for bringing racing into disrepute at the same time.
October 26, 2010 at 22:31 #324798I don’t know enough about racing politics to know wether or not he’s doing a good job
But I think that’s irrelevant
Surely the only issue is that he can’t be head of an organisation who’s major current problem is to negotiate a deal with the betting industry and at the same time be a large shareholder in a constituent part of that betting industry
isn’t it just as simple as that ?
October 26, 2010 at 23:26 #324806It’s like one of those popular youtube videos, with loads of thumbs up and a couple of rogue thumbs down, to which one wag will comment ‘One forum member is CEO of an offshore bookie that Roy is supposed to be batting against, another is his hedge fund partner’.
Of more interest is who replaces him? I have to express a vested interest here as I’m holding a betting slip with the word ‘Paul’ and odds ‘1/6’ scribbled on it in the Next Rabble Leader market. So I think Paul Struthers would be an excellent choice as caretaker chairman.
As for the next permanent Chairman, I see a field of around seven serious contenders: Mordin, Hislop, Wood, Rowlands, Koukash, Boyce, Richard Hills………..
October 26, 2010 at 23:36 #324807Your cv not in the post then Glenn?
Richard Hills would get my vote from those candidates…anything to get him out of the saddle!
October 27, 2010 at 08:20 #324821To me this shows Paul Roy is guilty of either breathtaking arrogance or breathtaking stupidy, and I’m not sure which one it is. No wonder our sport is in a mess.
October 27, 2010 at 09:19 #324829Yes. Even if you discount what’s happened this week, his heavily scripted appearance on ATR a few months back confirmed to me anyway he’s not a man with the vision, motivation, knowledge or ideas to secure the financial future of the sport.
Racing is about to get a serious wakeup call in a few weeks time.
October 27, 2010 at 10:33 #324834To me this shows Paul Roy is guilty of either breathtaking arrogance or breathtaking stupidy, and I’m not sure which one it is. No wonder our sport is in a mess.
Here here.
October 27, 2010 at 10:34 #324835I voted no. Happy to see him go if he is incompetent at his job.
Nonetheless hard to think of anyone in racing who is not equally or more conflicted. Tipsters, Journalists, Bloggers, Owners, breeders, punters, jockeys, trainers etc etc
If he had personally bought the shares for himself fine but for me it’s trivial.
October 27, 2010 at 11:26 #324841
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So Roy’s financial and substantive interest in the profitability of a company he’s effectively attempting to tax is ‘trivial’, bedfont?
His situation is in no way comparable to that of owners, tipsters, bloggers, jockeys, trainers or anyone else; in fact it’s the very definition of ‘conflict of interest’ and renders his position undeniably untenable.
The realisation that he’s useless anyway
should
serve to fuel the fire, but the arrogance of the man seems to have granted him temporary non-flammability.
If he’s not willing to jump, he should be pushed.
October 27, 2010 at 12:02 #324848
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Of course Roy should resign, or be pushed. But it seems that nobody –
nobody
… with the honourable media exceptions of Nick Luck and John McCririck … is putting any pressure on him to do so. That’s the most depressing part of this business.
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