CHELTENHAM 2017 Bets

[GoldenMiller34]

Decided to see which races I could get out of the way as every second will be needed next week to study the rest so I suppose you could call these my bankers:
Supreme: Moon Racer (if abs River Wylde)
Arkle: Altior (if abs Flying Angel)
CH: Yanworth (if abs Brain Power)
RSA: Might Bite (if abs Whisper)
QMCC: Douvan (if abs Fox Norton)
Stayers: Unowhatimeanharry
Triumph: Defi Du Seuil (if abs Master Blueyes)
GC: Cue Card

[stevecaution]

My ante-post bets were as follows:-

Supreme Novices Chateau Conti 16/1, Finian’s Oscar 25/1, Charli Parcs (Saver at 7/1) looks like none will run.

Arkle Altior in an ante-post roll up.

Champion Hurdle Faugheen 2/1 (injured but I had felt he would be 1/3 if winning the Irish version) Brain Power at 12/1, 10/1, 15/2, 8/1 and 15/2 again. Still topping up, main bet of the meeting.

Neptune Hurdle Finian’s Oscar 6/1 win and 5/1 each-way

Fred Winter Don Bersy 20/1 (Not entered, as owner doesn’t like Cheltenham apparently, (Philistine))

Triumph Hurdle Charli Parcs 20/1 Defi De Seuil 4/1 (Saver) Housesofparliament 16/1 was my early pick and I ruled him out after his first hurdles race.

The Bumper Paloma Blue 25/1 (Trainer has said he lacks the experience, so won’t run now but describes him as an exciting prospect who he can’t wait to put over obstacles)

The RSA Might Bite 10/1 and again at 6/1, saver on Coney Island 10/1 (Injured)

JLT Waiting Patiently 16/1 (slight injury means he misses the race) Politologue 8/1

Albert Bartlett Death Duty (part of a roll up)

Stayers Uknowhatimeanharry (part of a roll up)

The Gold Cup Native River 33/1 and Champagne West 50/1

Overall I am pretty happy. A few injured, a few not entered and a few duffers is normal for any year. I am most disappointed that my Supreme Novices picks did not pan out. Obviously delighted with the Gold Cup picks.

Good luck everyone. I’ll probably get round to studying the handicaps at the start of next week but looking at the markets at the moment, the odds look shocking value and I may not bother at such skittery prices.

Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.

[hayper]

Supreme – River Wylde E/W , backed Moon Racer in Nov but he will likely go to CH,
Arkle – Royal Caviar W/O
CH – Brain Power (NAP) (confident win selection cos it’s going to be good to soft on the first day, his last run was clearly the best performance we have seen this season in Britain and Ireland, can’t see anything threatening this horse), why Yanworth is on OR 164? handicapper clearly is a good mathematician but this game is not about maths…
CC- watch and enjoy
MH – Lifeboat Mona E/W without Limini
Neptune – Neon Wolf
AB – Death Duty, The World Ends W/O
Triumph – IF good ground Charli Parcs E/W

I hope that Brain Power will show us how genuine is Yanworth’s 164 mark. Maybe I am wrong, let’s see…

[joeski29]

joeski29 wrote:

Good way to keep track of bets, I’ve done
Melon 14/1
Melon 12/1, Campeador 16/1 (County) double
Melon 12/1, Campeador 14/1 (County) and non Cheltenham horse in a treble
Melon 20/1, Invitation Only 16/1 am a sports bet in a treble
Annie Power 10/3 (CH), Faugheen 4/1 (Stayers) double
Faugheen 3/1 (CH), Annie Power 7/2 (Marrs) double
Yorkhill 16/1 (CH), VVM 9/4 (Mares) 9/4 double
Yorkhill 16/1 (CH) with a sports net in a double
Yorkhill 6/1 (JLT), Min 8/1 (Arkle) double
Invitation Only 16/1, Aux Ptit Soins (RSA) 20/1 EW double
Landofhopeandglory (Triumph) 20/1
Housesofparliament (Triumph) 16/1
Vaniteux 20/1 (QM), Yanworth 12/1 (Stayers) EW double
Augusta Kate (Mares novice) 7/1
Augusta Kate (Mares novice) 7/1, On The Fringe 6/1 double
Alpha des Obeaux 7/1, Invitation Only 12:1 double
Unowhatimeanharry 5/1, On The Fringe 6/1 double
Empire of Dirt 50/1 (GC) EW
Coneygree 10/1
Coneygree 10/1, Invitation Only 12/1 double
Cue Card 10/1 (triple crown), Josies Orders 3/1
Uxizandre 33/1 (Ryanair) EW
Uxizandre 33/1 (Ryanair), A Genie In Abottle 14/1 (4 miler), Alpha des Obeaux 16/1, Mega Fortune 16/1 (Fred Winter) EW lucky 15
Squouateur 20/1 (close brothers chase), Ivanovich Gorbatov 20/1 (Coral) EW double
Ballyward 25/1

Typing it makes me realise that’s a lot of bets!

Since I posted that I’ve added Peace and Co at 12/1 for the county
Squaueteur at 12/1 for the Kim muir
Wholestone at 6/1 for the Albert Bartlett
A double with Defi for the supreme at 7/1 and Charli parcs at 4/1 for the Triumph
Moon racer at 14/1 for the champion hurdle
Someday at 9/1 for the bumper
Bleu et rouge at 25/1 for the coral
Poker play at 20/1
Mall Dini at 16/1 for the ultima
Bouvreuil for the brown plate at 14/1
Rock the world at 16/1 in the Grand annual
The last two in a double too

All nrnb except squaueteur

I’ve had my money back on Sutton place for the champion hurdle, Charli parcs for the supreme, delirant for the bumper

[joeski29]

joeski29 wrote:

joeski29 wrote:

Good way to keep track of bets, I’ve done
Melon 14/1
Melon 12/1, Campeador 16/1 (County) double
Melon 12/1, Campeador 14/1 (County) and non Cheltenham horse in a treble
Melon 20/1, Invitation Only 16/1 am a sports bet in a treble
Annie Power 10/3 (CH), Faugheen 4/1 (Stayers) double
Faugheen 3/1 (CH), Annie Power 7/2 (Marrs) double
Yorkhill 16/1 (CH), VVM 9/4 (Mares) 9/4 double
Yorkhill 16/1 (CH) with a sports net in a double
Yorkhill 6/1 (JLT), Min 8/1 (Arkle) double
Invitation Only 16/1, Aux Ptit Soins (RSA) 20/1 EW double
Landofhopeandglory (Triumph) 20/1
Housesofparliament (Triumph) 16/1
Vaniteux 20/1 (QM), Yanworth 12/1 (Stayers) EW double
Augusta Kate (Mares novice) 7/1
Augusta Kate (Mares novice) 7/1, On The Fringe 6/1 double
Alpha des Obeaux 7/1, Invitation Only 12:1 double
Unowhatimeanharry 5/1, On The Fringe 6/1 double
Empire of Dirt 50/1 (GC) EW
Coneygree 10/1
Coneygree 10/1, Invitation Only 12/1 double
Cue Card 10/1 (triple crown), Josies Orders 3/1
Uxizandre 33/1 (Ryanair) EW
Uxizandre 33/1 (Ryanair), A Genie In Abottle 14/1 (4 miler), Alpha des Obeaux 16/1, Mega Fortune 16/1 (Fred Winter) EW lucky 15
Squouateur 20/1 (close brothers chase), Ivanovich Gorbatov 20/1 (Coral) EW double
Ballyward 25/1

Typing it makes me realise that’s a lot of bets!

Since I posted that I’ve added Peace and Co at 12/1 for the county
Squaueteur at 12/1 for the Kim muir
Wholestone at 6/1 for the Albert Bartlett
A double with Defi for the supreme at 7/1 and Charli parcs at 4/1 for the Triumph
Moon racer at 14/1 for the champion hurdle
Someday at 9/1 for the bumper
Bleu et rouge at 25/1 for the coral
Poker play at 20/1
Mall Dini at 16/1 for the ultima
Bouvreuil for the brown plate at 14/1
Rock the world at 16/1 in the Grand annual
The last two in a double too

All nrnb except squaueteur

I’ve had my money back on Sutton place for the champion hurdle, Charli parcs for the supreme, delirant for the bumper

I’ve got a matched bet on yorkhill for the jlt at 7/4 as well, so essentially 7/2 on him

[Venture to Cognac]

Done and Dusted…………finally. It’ll all be day of the race bets for me, from now on in, with maybe the occasional lay.

Very best of luck to everyone this week, I hope we all have a winner or two

Arkle (Green Book)
Ordinary World 50’s ew

Ordinary World 120’s to 460’s Laid 60’s
Waiting Patiently 190’s Laid 100’s

Ultima Handicap
Holywell 16’s and 20’s ew

Champion Hurdle (Green Book)
Brain Power 25’s and 33’s ew

Petit Mouchoir 480’s to 490’s Laid 7.4 & 9.2’s
Vroum Vroum Mag 42’s to 150’s Laid 14.5’s to 17’s
Wicklow Brave 260’s to 390’s Laid 44’s
Ch’Tibello 320’s to 490’s Laid 48’s to 60’s
My Tent Or Yours 65’s

Nichols Canyon 180’s to 230’s Laid 20’s
Jezki 100’s to 290’s Laid 21’s to 30’s
Ivan Grozny 40’s to 200’s Laid 65’s
Sutton Place 190’s to 550’s Laid 40’s to 70’s
Limini 75’s Laid 8.6’s & 19.5’s

Laid Buveur D’Air 4.6’s to 4.8’s
Laid Brain Power 9.8’s

Mares Hurdle
Midnight Jazz 65’s to 260’s
Midnight Tour 800’s to 810’s

National Hunt Chase (Green Book)
Tiger Roll 25’s ew

Tiger Roll 32’s to 42’s Laid 19’s
Marinero 70’s to 80’s Laid 27’s to 48’s

Close Brothers Novices
NRNB Double W’s 25’s ew

Neptune
Battleford 90’s to 350’s

RSA
Marinero 660’s to 1000’s Laid 65’s
Acapella Bourgeois 280’s to 290’s Laid 16’s to 19’s

Coral Cup
NRNB I Shot The Sheriff 33’s ew

Champion Chase
Garde La Victoire 40’s ew

Garde La Victoire 170’s to 220’s

Cross Country (Green Book)
Cantlow 10’s win
Cause of Causes 20’s win

Cause of Causes 14.5’s Laid 5.4’s

Bumper
NRNB West Coast Time 16’s win
NRNB Imperial Eloquence 25’s ew

Pertemps
NRNB Wotzizname 25’s win
NRNB For Good Measure 16’s win

Ryanair
Empire of Dirt 40’s win
Alary 66’s Each Way

Village Vic 70’s to 200’s

Champagne West 120’s to 260’s Laid 24’s to 26’s
Empire of Dirt 28’s to 29’s Laid 11’s to 14’s

Kim Muir
Another Hero 22’s to 25’s

Doctor Harper 14’s win
Another Hero 20’s ew
NRNB Squouateur 16’s win

Triumph Hurdle
NRNB Forth Bridge 33’s ew

Albert Bartlett
NRNB The Worlds End 14’s win

Foxhunter
NRNB Pacha Du Polder 16’s ew

County Hurdle
Winter Escape 33’s ew
NRNB Allblak Des Places 33’s ew

Gold Cup (Green Book)

Native River 33’s ew
Minella Rocco 40’s ew
More of That 66’s win

Minella Rocco 90’s
Empire of Dirt 250’s to 1000’s Laid 27’s & 34’s
More of That 120’s to 270’s Laid 16’s
Irish Cavalier 250’s to 1000’s
Smad Place 150’s to 380’s
Saphir Du Rheu 160’s to 1000’s
Champagne West 550’s to 1000’s Laid 22’s to 25’s
Tea For Two 230’s

Blaklion 150’s Laid Laid 120’s to 180’s
Many Clouds 210’s to 380’s Laid 34’s, 48’s to 55’s
Zabana 50’s to 250’s Laid 140’s
Laid Thistlecrack 2.98’s to 3.05’s
Laid Native River 4.1’s to 4.2’s
Laid Cue Card 4.8’s

Martin Pipe
NRNB Taglietelle 50’s ew
NRNB I Shot The Sheriff 33’s ew

Grand Annual
NRNB Bright New Dawn 25’s win
Sizing Platinum 25’s ew

Non Runner
What’s Happening

Specials
Native River Hennessy/Cheltenham Gold Cup Double 250-1
More of That Gold Cup/Grand National Double 500-1

[botchy1]

Added Lac Fontana E/W @ 14’s NRNB for the MP

Also Sleep Easy 33.s E/W NRNB

[botchy1]

Venture to Cognac wrote:

Done and Dusted…………finally. It’ll all be day of the race bets for me, from now on in, with maybe the occasional lay.

Very best of luck to everyone this week, I hope we all have a winner or two

Good luck VTC. I’m sure the hard work will pay off for you.

I’ve sorted about 20% of mine up to now but days 2-4 are going to take god knows how much to sort out. I placed 95% of my bets with the firms as opposed to the exchanges.

[Venture to Cognac]

Thanks Botchy

Good luck with yours, lots of twists and turns still to come, and hooe days 2 to 4 leave you with a few winners.

[JJMSports]

JJMSports wrote:

Supreme
Elgin 20/1
Bunk Off Early 25/1 NRNB
Ballyandy 33s NRNB

Champion Hurdle
Yanworth 12/1
Petit Mouchoir 25/1

Neptune
Messire des Obeaux 12/1
Bacardys 12/1

The Finians Oscar/Moon Racer news surely too good to be true..

[Jasolong]

One point I want to make-
I see horse on the exchanges like douvan and altior.
People are still willing to bet them in Ryanair and Jlt.
Obviously they are at very big prices but it’s seems like easy money if you have a lot of money play with in laying them.
Even pay them to place because I cannot see any scenario where douvan goes Ryanair or altior goes JlT

[charlie87]

JJMSports wrote:

JJMSports wrote:

Supreme
Elgin 20/1
Bunk Off Early 25/1 NRNB
Ballyandy 33s NRNB

Champion Hurdle
Yanworth 12/1
Petit Mouchoir 25/1

Neptune
Messire des Obeaux 12/1
Bacardys 12/1

The Finians Oscar/Moon Racer news surely too good to be true..

Yeh you are in a great position there

[charlie87]

charlie87 wrote:

Supreme – Moon Racer @ 16’s
Supreme – Jenkins @ 20’s
Supreme – Consul De Thaix
Neptune – Finian’s Oscar @ 14’s
RSA – Alpha Des Obeaux @ 20’s
RSA – Mall Dini @ 33’s
Champion Hurdle – MTOY EW @ 50’s
Champion Hurdle – Yorkhill @ 16’s
Champion Hurdle – Jezki @ 130’s
Stayers Hurdle – Ptit Zig @ 20’s
Stayers Hurdle – Uknowhatimeanharry @ 14’s
JLT – Top Notch @ 25’s
Neptune – Finian’s Oscar @ 16’s
Ryanair – Uxizandre @ 12’s
National Hunt Chase – Milsean @ 16’s
National Hunt Chase – Fagan @ 30’s
National Hunt Chase – Tiger Roll @ 32’s
Cross Country – Ballyboker Bridge @ 50’s
Ryanair – Ar Mad @ 25’s
Ryanair – VVM @ 10’s
Ryanair – Uxizandre @ 10’s
Champion Chase – Traffic Fluide EW @ 33’s

Quite a few still live. Happy with UKWIMH. Moon Racer and Finians Oscar news wasn’t great but hopefully they all get there and one of them wins!

[Venture to Cognac]

Some nice prices Charlie, good luck

[Pontisback]

Thought it about time I trawled through all my bets. Far too many losers so won’t waste your time with them, a few good ones have emerged, but then some absolute sickeners along the way but that’s what we expect right?

Thistlecrack Gold Cup 10s Alpha Des Obeaux RSA 10s double. Gutted

Moon Racer supreme 16s, Altior Arkle 4s, Yorkhill JLT 9/2, Death Duty Albert Bartlett 16s ew Lucky 15. The MR news yesterday has absolutely killed me, but very happy indeed. I had actually forgotten about this one!!

Senewalk, Jenkins both at 16s.

HousesofParliament 16s

Getabird 8s, ADO RSA 8s, VVM Mares 2s, Josses Hill Ryanair 8s, Augusta Kate Mares Novice 8’s Lucky 31 ew

Alpha Des Obeaux RSA 20’s – 8s. One of the biggest cumulative bets I’ve ever had

ADO RSA 11’s, On The Fringe 6s, Native River 8s, UDS Ryanair 11/2, Heartbreak City 16s County, Getabird 8s, Traffic Fluide 25s Champion Chase. Super Heinz ew. Very, very happy with this one, shame about Getabird not making it, but still hopefully a profitable bet indeed!!

Jezki 14s Stayers, Martello Tower 14s NH Chase, Mega Fortune 14s Fred Winter. EW Trixie. Very happy indeed, disappointed Mega Fortune was so impressive in Ireland the other day as was hoping he’d turn up here rather than in the Triumph.

Getabird 8s

Heartbreak City 16s County

Melon 10s Supreme. Laid off now for a green book as was worried about Moon Racer. Think I’ll take up Sky Bets money back offer on Melon again though despite being so short.

Tizzard to train Gold CUP 1-2-3 16s, not too confident at all anymore.

All in all a very happy punter as it stands, far better than I thought I’d done. Turns out the ‘fun’ multiple bets are the ones that seem to be getting me out of jail this year!!

[DBRDBR]

Supreme
Crack Mome 12/1
Captitaine 34/1 ( )

Arkle
Charbel (without Altior) 7/1

Ultima
Vintage Clouds 25/1

Champion Hurdle
Yanworth 5/1
The New One 25/1 EW
Tombstone 42/1 ( )

Close Brothers
Itsafreebee 11/1

Neptune
Finians Oscar 12/1 ( )
William Henry 38/1

RSA
Alpha des Obeaux 20/1

Coral Cup
Old Guard 20/1 EW

Champion Chase
Ar Mad 25/1 EW ( )
Garde la Victorie (without Douvan) 16/1 EW

Bumper
Carter McKay 5/1

JLT
Disko 16/1
Buveur d’Air 9/1 ( )

Pertemps
El Bandit 16/1

Ryanair
Un des Sceaux 8/1
Vaniteux 255/1
Valseur Lido 12/1 ( )

Stayers Hurdle
Lil Rockefeller 40/1 EW
Lil Rockefeller 25/1 (without uknowhatimeanharry)

Triumph
Charli Parcs 9/1 EW

County
North Hill Harvey 8/1

Albert Bartlett
West Approach 25/1 (uncertain to go here apparently)
Wholestone 9/1 EW

Gold Cup
Cue Card (without Thistlecrack) 7/1
Minella Rocco (without Thistlecrack 25/1
Minella Rocco 50/1 EW

Grand Annual
Le Prezien 9/1

Double
Might Bite – Native River 20/1

Treble
Yorkhill – Death Duty – Djakadam 60/1

[Middle_Of_March]

Got some nice multis still going but Moon racer going CH is one of my first big losers antepost (usuallly get about 4/5 but only had him and Thistlecrack this year not turn up).

Biggest cumulative bet ever on ADO

Must’ve done him 30/40 times in total with the majority of those at 25/1 and 20/1. Instant profit from the festival of 500% if he wins.

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