CHELTENHAM 2017 Bets

[Venture to Cognac]

Not much looking to lay Native River in The Gold Cup, and I fear the worst.

[botchy1]

Backed Rainbow Dreamer again @ 25’s E/W NRNB for the Fred Winter.Cannot see it out of the top 4 if it runs off 135 or less

[Sea Pigeon]

Most of my ante-post bets have already bit the dust. I have one decent looking bet (each way treble) left if they all turn up.

07 Dec 16 / 09:34 Treble(s) (EW) O/0306271/0004792/F
1 Standard Champion Hurdle – 14th Mar 2017 – Outright Yanworth @ 10/1 – £10.00
2 Standard RSA Chase – 15th Mar 2017 – Outright Coney Island @ 10/1 –
3 Standard Timico Cheltenham Gold Cup – 17th Mar 2017 – Outright Djakadam @ 12/1 –

[Venture to Cognac]

Good news for you today Pigeon with Coney Island, best of luck

[botchy1]

Backed Moon Racer CH @ 25’s laid off @ 17.0 5 seconds later for a free bet @ 9’s

Laid Presenting Percy @ 8’s for a free bet @ 25’s

Backed Move with the times in the Supreme @ 12’s to win.

[stilvi]

stilvi wrote:

stilvi wrote:

A few disappointments but one or two still in with a shout.

Champion Hurdle – Apple’s Jade 16/1 (WIN) & Brain Power 33/1 (EW)

Still unconvinced that this is not the better target for Apple’s Jade but the Petit Mouchoir win has probably closed the door. Brain Power was extremely impressive in a handicap and needs to do something similar under different conditions in a trial race.

Triumph – Defi Du Seuil 16/1 (W)

Clearly has a massive engine. Ground a possible issue. Hobbs consistently talking about Triumph so it would be a major about turn if he were re-routed to the Supreme.

Neptune – Robin Roe 20/1 (W) & Invitation Only 10/1 (W) & Finian’s Oscar 25/1 (W)

Fast turning into a nightmare. Robin Roe and Invitation Only were the two horses best supported in the ante-post market. Who knows what would have happened with Robin Roe and Invitation Only was woeful at Navan. Now it appears Finian’s Oscar is going Tolworth??????? I know the Supreme looks weak but even so?

Gold Cup – Thistlecrack 5/1 (W) & Coneygree 10/1 (W)

On the basis of actual achievement I think Thistlecrack is now a shocking price. I am not confident at all. I think it is very unlikely that we will see Coneygree.

Ryanair – Empire Of Dirt 40/1 (W)

In terms of price by far and away the best bet I have got but it appears it will need a miracle for him to be given the chance to show that he is a proper Grade 1 horse.

RSA – Mall Dini 33/1 (EW) & Our Duke 10/1 (W)

Both look to have decent chances. Mall Dini the better of two if they can get him back to last year’s level and he gets his ground.

Arkle – Ordinary World 50/1 (EW)

Didn’t try to beat Min. Would almost certainly only run here if small field. Decent chance in Grand Annual.

JLT – Clan Des Obeaux 12/1 (W)

Very disappointing at Cheltenham. Needs a much stronger ride than STD will ever be capable of so absolutely no chance.

Albert Bartlett – Death Duty 12/1 (W)

Hasn’t done anything wrong so far but definite ground concern.

Champion Chase – Ar Mad 50/1 (EW)

Probably the only horse who could put it up to Douvan but will need to translate right-handed form. Also jockey sidelined. Give Dickie a go!

Added:-

Festival Bumper – West Coast Time 14/1 (W)

Regally bred and found a nice bit off the bridle when making a winning debut. Finding it hard to believe that Getabird is that much better than the rest?

Gold Cup – Empire Of Dirt 50/1 (EW)

Has a great chance to win the Ryanair but if pushed in the wrong direction to the tune of five furlongs his class might still enable him to place.

Fred Winter – Master Blueyes 20/1 (W)

Reasonable level of form and a little improvement should see him the mix. Likely to go off shorter than current odds.

Grand Annual – Ordinary World 20/1 (W)

Given the way he was ridden last time have a feeling connections will wave a white flag at the Arkle and go the handicap route. Good ground will help.

Won’t be much more before day of the race now. A bumpy road but hopefully still a few live ones. The NRNB has helped.

RSA – Royal Vacation 33/1 (EW)

I think he has plenty going for him. Other than Empire Of Dirt possibly the best of my big prices.

Close Brothers – Mercian Prince 25/1 (EW) NRNB

Needs to bounce back from a disappointing performance.

Stayers – Unowhatimeanharry 15/8 (W)

Couldn’t avoid him any longer. No obvious reason that the Stayers should see the end of the winning run.

Coral Cup – Peregrine Run 33/1 (EW) NRNB

Unless the ground turns soft this might be ideal and has been backed accordingly.

JLT – Coney Island 14/1 (EW) NRNB

Out today. Looked as if he might be heading for the wrong race in any case.

Supreme – Beyond Conceit 25/1 (EW)

Pleased to have only backed one. If he gets the green light I think he could surprise a few.

Grand Annual – Ball D’Arc 14/1 (EW) NRNB

Would have had every chance in this but seems unlikely to travel.

Pertemps – Jury Duty 16/1 (EW) NRNB

Well backed but I don’t think he stayed last time. Perhaps drying ground might help?

Champion Bumper – Delirant & If The Cap Fits 25/1 (EW) NRNB

One out, the other must be very doubtful in what doesn’t look a strong renewal.

Kim Muir – Heron Heights 33/1 (EW) NRNB

Has options, chance on drying ground.

County – Ice Cold Soul 20/1 (EW) NRNB

Relatively easy winner of a competitive handicap. Every Chance if he can get a run.

Brown Advisory – Frodon 20/1 (EW) NRNB

You would think he would have his chance in this but trainer appears keen to go elsewhere.

Close Brothers – Tully East 25/1 (EW)

A fair chance that he might be a shade better than what he has shown.

[Jasolong]

My bets

Supreme Novices:
Ante post-
Jenkins 25/1, 16/1,8/1
Charli parcs 20/1, 8/1,6/1 any race, 5/1 NRNB
Moon racer: 10/1
Melon: 10/1
On the day : no f*****g idea now.

Arkle:
Antepost-
Altior 4/1,3/1,2/1,15/8,4/5
On the day: charbel without

Champion hurdle:
Ante post – Yanworth 20/1, 16/1,8/1,5/1 NRNB
Brain power 12/1
My tent or yours 95/1
On the day: YANWORTH NAP

Mares hurdle:
Ante post-
Vroum Vroum mag 2/1, 7/4
On the day : VVM

Neptune:
Antepost-
Finians oscar 8/1
Messire des obeaux 12/1
William Henry 37/1

On the day: neon wolf and William Henry LoL

RSA:
Antepost-
Might bite 8/1,5/1
Alpha des obeaux 16/1
O o seven 33/1

On the day:
MB and ADO

Champion chase:
Antepost-
Douvan 1/2,4/9
On the day: something without Douvan

JLT
Antepost-
Yorkhill 7/2
Whisper 12/1
Buveur dair 8/1

On the day: top notch LOL

Ryanair:
Antepost-
Josses hill 12/1
Black hercules 20/1
UDS 9/2

On the day: UDS

Stayers:
No bet
On the day: no idea

Triumph hurdle:
Antepost-
Charli parcs 12/1,8/1,6/1 any race
DDS 4/1

On the day : Charli parcs (NB)

Albert Bartlett:
Antepost
Wholstone 8/1
West approach 9/1

On the day: same 2

Gold cup:
Antepost-
Thistlecrack 4/1,5/2
Cue card 9/2 NRNB

On the day: cue card

[BigG]

BigG wrote:

Champion Hurdle Yanworth 5/1

Champion Hurdle – Apples Jade 10/1 (No chance he’ll turn up here)

Mares Hurdle – Kotkikova 14/1

Queen Mother CC – Traffic Fluide e/w 33/1

Neptune Novices hurdle – Robin Roe 10/1

RSA Chase – Aux Ptit Soins 25/1

JLT Novice Chase – Top Notch 20/1

World Hurdle – Unowhatimeanharry 25/1 & 20/1

Triumph Hurdle – Meri Devie 12/1

Stupidly missed the fancy prices on Thistlecrack, who if he stands he wins, so in case of mishap…
Don Cossack – 12/1. He’s a decent e/w, there’s a chance he doesn’t get there, (Gold Cup) but if he does he
wont be 12/1.

Thought I’d update my ante post bets, those listed above were put on last year and
only 5 out of the 10 are still standing. Unowhatimeanharry, Top Notch and Yanworth
seem best of those still standing. I’ve bet the following since then, all are mentioned
at the prices stated in different parts of TRF.

Champion Hurdle – Ch’Tibello 50/1 e/w
Supreme Hurdle – Crack Mome 12/1 (doesn’t look too smart now)
RSA Chase – American 20/1
Ryanair – Taquin Du Seuil 20/1
Triumph – Defi Du Seuil 4/1
Neptune – Augusta Kate 16/1 (probably Albert Bartlett bound)
Gold Cup -Djakadam 14/1

Of the additions American, Defi Du Seuil and Djakadam are probably those
with the best shout and are a good bit shorter in the market. I’ll probably
just wait til the Festival to place the rest of my bets now.
Good luck all

[botchy1]

Placed since entries came out

Charbel 12’s E/W NRNB Arkle
Diamond King 2 x 8’s NRNB BA Plate
Mega Fortune @ 7’s Triumph NRNB
Gods Own E/W @ 20’s NRNB
Martello Tower 18.0 NH Chase
Value at Risk 15.5 Close Bros.

Added

Storyteller @ 7’s NRNB
Yorkhill @ 5/2 NRNB

All sorted for me i hope

[charlie87]

Since the weights were released (all NRNB):

Ultima – Noble Endeavor @ 14’s
Close Brothers – Foxtail Hill @ 10’s
Coral Cup – Peregrine Run @ 12’s
Fred Winter – Devin Bere @ 10’s
Brown Advisory – Sizing Codelco @ 16’s
Kim Muir – Southfield Royale @ 20’s
Foxhunters – Pacha Du Polder @ 18’s

[Venture to Cognac]

Good luck Charlie, always been a big fan of Noble Endeavour, and Pacha Du Polder is still a big price

[Venture to Cognac]

Still hope that Ch’Tibello makes the gig Graham. He was down only as 50-50 obviously, but when I read 50-50 about a horse, I reckon it’s really 20-80. I do believe though, that they were expecting to win the other day, and they were really disappointed, hence the rushed Wind Op. As unlikely as it looks, I’ll be very happy if he’s still there on Wednesday.

[Venture to Cognac]

Definitely last update for me I would think/hope, and will probably concentrate on laying now………..famous last words lol

Weekly Update

Arkle (Green Book)
Ordinary World 50’s ew

Ordinary World 120’s to 460’s Laid 60’s
Waiting Patiently 190’s Laid 100’s

Ultima Handicap
Holywell 16’s and 20’s ew
What’s Happening 50’s ew

What’s Happening 60’s to 65’s

Champion Hurdle (Green Book)
Brain Power 25’s and 33’s ew

Petit Mouchoir 480’s to 490’s Laid 7.4 & 9.2’s
Vroum Vroum Mag 42’s to 150’s Laid 14.5’s to 17’s
Wicklow Brave 260’s to 390’s Laid 44’s
Ch’Tibello 320’s to 490’s Laid 48’s to 60’s
My Tent Or Yours 65’s

Nichols Canyon 180’s to 230’s Laid 20’s
Jezki 100’s to 290’s Laid 21’s to 30’s
Ivan Grozny 40’s to 200’s Laid 65’s
Sutton Place 190’s to 550’s Laid 40’s to 70’s
Limini 75’s Laid 8.6’s & 19.5’s

Laid Buveur D’Air 4.6’s to 4.8’s
Laid Brain Power 9.8’s

Mares Hurdle
Midnight Jazz 65’s to 2600’s
Midnight Tour 800’s to 810’s

National Hunt Chase
Tiger Roll 25’s ew

Tiger Roll 32’s to 42’s
Marinero 70’s to 80’s

Close Brothers Novices
NRNB Double W’s 25’s ew
NRNB Potters Legend 25’s win

Neptune
Battleford 90’s to 350’s

RSA
Marinero 660’s to 1000’s Laid 65’s
Acapella Bourgeois 280’s to 290’s Laid 16’s to 19’s

Coral Cup
NRNB I Shot The Sheriff 33’s ew

Champion Chase
Garde La Victoire 40’s ew

Garde La Victoire 170’s to 220’s

Cross Country
Cantlow 10’s win
Cause of Causes 20’s win

Cause of Causes 14.5’s

Bumper
NRNB West Coast Time 16’s win
NRNB Imperial Eloquence 25’s ew

Ryanair
Empire of Dirt 40’s win
Alary 66’s Each Way

Village Vic 70’s to 200’s
Champagne West 120’s to 260’s Laid 24’s to 26’s
Empire of Dirt 28’s to 29’s Laid 11’s to 14’s

Kim Muir
Another Hero 22’s to 25’s

Doctor Harper 14’s win
Another Hero 20’s ew
NRNB Squouateur 16’s win

Triumph Hurdle
NRNB Forth Bridge 33’s ew

Albert Bartlett
NRNB The Worlds End 14’s win

Foxhunter
NRNB Pacha Du Polder 16’s ew

County Hurdle
Winter Escape 33’s ew
NRNB Allblak Des Places 33’s ew

Gold Cup (Green Book)

Native River 33’s ew
Minella Rocco 40’s ew

Minella Rocco 90’s
Empire of Dirt 250’s to 1000’s Laid 27’s & 34’s
More of That 120’s to 270’s Laid 16’s
Irish Cavalier 250’s to 1000’s
Smad Place 150’s to 380’s
Saphir Du Rheu 160’s to 1000’s
Champagne West 550’s to 1000’s Laid 22’s to 25’s
Tea For Two 230’s

Blaklion 150’s Laid 120’s to 180’s
Many Clouds 210’s to 380’s Laid 34’s, 48’s to 55’s
Zabana 50’s to 250’s Laid 140’s
Laid Thistlecrack 2.98’s to 3.05’s
Laid Native River 4.1’s to 4.2’s
Laid Cue Card 4.8’s

Martin Pipe
NRNB Taglietelle 50’s ew
NRNB I Shot The Sheriff 33’s ew

Grand Annual
NRNB Bright New Dawn 25’s win
Sizing Platinum 25’s ew

Non Runners
Douvan, Diakali, Mister Miyagi, JLT Removed, Tiger Roll, Smad Place, Ballycasey, Roi Des Francs, Viconte Du Noyer, several Gold Cup “rags”

Specials
Native River Hennessy/Cheltenham Gold Cup Double 250-1
More of That Gold Cup/Grand National Double 500-1

[charlie87]

Good luck VTC

[Venture to Cognac]

Thanks Charlie, and same to yourself, hope you have a good time of it mate

[Lemons68]

Lemons68 wrote:

Lemons68 wrote:

Mares Hurdle
Lifeboat Mona 20-1

Champion Chase
Traffic Fluide 33-1

Triumph Hurdle
Defi Du Seuil 14-1
Soldier In Action 33-1

Gold Cup
Blaklion 33-1 and 150-1

To win any race
Battleford 10-1

I am happy to put a line through Traffic Fluide and Soldier in Action, but as it is getting closer now I will definitely use the NRNB which I find invaluable

It looks like I am out of luck with Blaklion for The Gold Cup, but I will add two with non runner-no bet.

Don Poli 25-1
Bristol De Mai 25-1

My other bet also NRNB

stayers Zarkander 20-1 each way

[botchy1]

All winners picked out now

SUPREME
Moon Racer 2 x @ 6’s NRNB laid bigger prices @6’s & swapped into 11-2 NRNB
Move with the times @ 12’s

ARKLE
Charbel E/W @ 12’s NRNB

ULTIMA
Champers on Ice @ 16’s NRNB
Druids Nephew @ 16’s NRNB

CHAMPION HURDLE
Brain Power 12’s, 10’s & 9’s NRNB
MTOY E/W 50s NRNB E/W 50s @ E/W 40’s
Yorkhill 30.0
Moon Racer 33’s NRNB & Free bet @ 9’s

NH CHASE
Martello Tower @ 18.0

CLOSE BROS
Value at Risk @ 15.5 & 15.0

NEPTUNE
Monalee 14’s NRNB Doubtfull
Lets Dance 16’s NRNB Doubtfull

CORAL CUP
Old Guard 4 x 33’s NRNB
Peregrine Run 33’s & 20’s E/W NRNB
Hagram 33’s NRNB

RSA
Mite Bite 14’s & 12’s Laid off stake @ 3.9
ADO 2 x 20’s NRNB, 2 x 20’s E/W NRNB, 16’s E/W NRNB, 2 x 16’s,2 x 14’s,2 x 12’s, 2 x 10’s & 8’s
Acapella 16’s & 14’s NRNB

QM
Gods Own 20’s E/W NRNB

Cross Country
Cantlow @ 4’s
Cause of Causes 16’s & 14’s NRNB & 9.8

Fred Winter
Rainbow Dreamer 33’s & E/W 25’s NRNB

Bumper
Western Ryder 4 x 25’s NRNB 3 x E/W 25’s NRNB & 3 x 16’s NRNB & 14.5

JLT
Yorkhill 5’s, 2 x 7-2 & 11-4 & 5-2 NRNB

Pertemps

Presenting Percy 33’s Laid off for free bet @ 25’s
Golden Doyen 2 x 20’s E/W NRNB 2 x 20’s NRNB, 2 x 16’s NRNB & 18.5

Ryanair

Alary E/W 66’s

Stayers
Lil Rockerfeller 90.0 down to 25.0
VVM 16.0 to 10.0
Snow Falcon 40.0 – 17.0
Shaneshill 15.5 & 3 x 12’s NRNB

BA Plate
Diamond King 2 x 8’s

Mares Nov
Airlie Beach @ 9-2 NRNB

Kim Muir
Mall Dini 12’s 10’s NRNB & 15.5

Triumph
Mega Fortune @7’s NRNB

County
Tudor City 23.0 & 20’s E/W NRNB Doubtfull
Hawk High E/W @ 50’s

Albert Bartlett
Death Duty 20’s, 14’s & 12’s Laid off stake @ 3’s for +25
Monalee 22.0 & 14’s E/W NRNB

Gold Cup
Cue Card 16’s & 6 x 14’s Laid off some @ 4.6
Saphir Du Rheu 570.0 – 80.0 Laid off some @ 110,80
Fine Rightly 770 – 240
Theatre Guide 460 Laid off stake @ 180

Martin Pipe
The Storyteller @ 16’s & 7’s NRNB
Lac Fontana E/W 20’s NRNB

Grand Annual
Velvet Maker @ 20’s E/W NRNB

Novelty Bets

Wylie top owner @ 25’s
Ivanovich Gorbotov to win any race E/W @ 20’s

Bets down -£180
Min, Faugheen, Ar Mad , Cause of Causes Laid off, Heartbreak City, Getabird Laid off, Valseur Lido Jenkins, Ordinary World, Battleford, Balt.Dallier, Coney Island Laid Off

Need some good news on Lil Rockerfeller & no bad news for ADO, Yorkhill & Cue Card

Will start laying off this week aiming to recover lost bets and 25% of current bets as a free bet. Well that’s the plan anyway.

[Author]

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