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While it may have been the correct decision (marginally), I’m not entirely comfortable with one aspect of it:
We have a situation where it’s safe enough for horses, riders and fans, but end up being buggered by the corporates, freeloaders who go from one big sporting occasion to another, sitting with their backs to the action, while they force obscene quantities of food and booze down their gullets.
I bet some of you guys moaned in 1985 that the match in Heysel went off a couple of hours late and again in 1989 because the match in Hillsborough was abandoned.
Get some perspective on things for God’s sake.
I think that remark is totally out of order.
Agree.
I have just been speakking to a mate and his little sister is working in one of the bars at the festival this week.
Apparently the coach arrived on site this morning with the staff and she said they werent allowed to get off the coach as it was so dangerous. She said a marquee and metal pole was flying through the air.Now when you have metal poles flying wildly through the air and they wont even let you get off the coach then it should become clear to the knockers that the correct decision was made. Nothing namby pamby UK nanny state about it.
I have just been speakking to a mate and his little sister is working in one of the bars at the festival this week.
Apparently the coach arrived on site this morning with the staff and she said they werent allowed to get off the coach as it was so dangerous. She said a marquee and metal pole was flying through the air.Now when you have metal poles flying wildly through the air and they wont even let you get off the coach then it should become clear to the knockers that the correct decision was made. Nothing namby pamby UK nanny state about it.
There was no mention of this anywhere you’d have thought TV might have mentioned it particularly Ed Gillespie. Not calling anyone a liar but you always hear tales.
Anyway I’m not going into rant mode again so I’ll just let you lot get on with it.
Maybe my mates little sister is lying, I dont really know her so lets not rule anything out at this stage.
There was no mention of this anywhere you’d have thought TV might have mentioned it particularly Ed Gillespie. Not calling anyone a liar but you always hear tales.
Sorry Flash, must disagree with you there. Ed Gillespie mentioned in in several media interviews this morning.
It has also appeared, to my knowledge – and there may be others I have not seen, on the Sporting Life and BBC websites.
Safety first. Full stop.
Correct decision made. Move on.
(Short sentences. Order of day.)
My point remains that too many people find it too easy to complain about Health & Safety issues when they don’t affect them personally, other than the fact that a sporting event has been cancelled so they don’t get to watch it.
I stand by my remarks and quite frankly don’t see the problem with highlighting past tragedies to emphasise why Health & Safety is paramount.
Safety first. Full stop.
Correct decision made. Move on.
(Short sentences. Order of day.)
Ditto. Right decision. Safety first.
My point remains that too many people find it too easy to complain about Health & Safety issues when they don’t affect them personally, other than the fact that a sporting event has been cancelled so they don’t get to watch it.
I stand by my remarks and quite frankly don’t see the problem with highlighting past tragedies to emphasise why Health & Safety is paramount.
Heysel and Hillsborough were tragedies on a previously unimaginable scale, involving some 130-odd deaths; the racing was called off yesterday on the off chance that a flying bolt may have hit someone on the head. Your comparison is crass.
What was beneath contempt, however, was your boast that "some of us guys" (and as you didn’t name names I’m assuming that you were referring to those who were critical of the decision to abandon, me included) would have moaned at the decision to delay/postpone those matches, an accusation which I find as sickening as it is stupid.
Safety first. Full stop.
Correct decision made. Move on.
(Short sentences. Order of day.)
Just a reminder – you are the administrator of the Forum, not the arbiter of the universe.
They say that the best referee’s go unnoticed. You would do well to heed those wise words.
In my opinion, he should remain impartial, lest he be accused of favouritism in the event of having to intervene in “slanging matches”.
If he is going to have an opinion, he should couch his words with a little more humility……in my opinion.
In MY opinion, yes he’s the moderator of the forum, but while he’s not actually moderating, he’s just another forum member with as much right to an opinion as the rest of us.
We can all make up our own opinions, we’re not going to be swayed by what the moderator thinks.
Bosranic.
Life is a risk, but let’s be honest, can you please list for me all the racegoers killed by flying objects at a racecourse in the last 50 years? I’m struggling. It was the same when I was trying to think of the last jock killed by low sun.
When I read some of the posts by those who must either be the increasing number of H&S staff or just purely brainwashed by this safety obsessed society we now live in, I just despair. No wonder anyone who likes to take risks has to leave this island.
Your bags are packed then, I trust?
As mentioned on the latest – of many – low sun threads, that people were prepared to ride in or hold meetings in beyond-safe conditions in the past doesn’t make them any braver, harder or more noble in my eyes, just rather more bloody-minded and a tad dim. Sensibilities have changed immeasurably since the days of concrete posts around racetracks, riding without the body armour underneath the silks, etc., and thank heavens for that.
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You would be hard pressed to move Lydia Hislop with a tornado so what on earth was she going on about.
Naughty naughty.
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Jeremy Grayson. Son of immigrant. Adoptive father of two. Metadata librarian. Freelance point-to-point / horse racing writer, analyst and commentator wonk. Loves music, buses, cats, the BBC Micro, ale. Advocate of CBT, PACE and therapeutic parenting. Aspergers.
Not so, it was standing water on a clay soil that fortunately hadn’t had the time to be absorbed. Very different from, and much easier to travel on, than a waterlogged clay soil.
All credit to Plumpton for recognizing that the grim-on-the-eye conditions weren’t actually as bad as they seemed, and allowing racing to go ahead.
Compare and contrast with Ayr the previous day which which had little standing water but was nevertheless near-waterlogged and truly grim.
Absolutely, Drone – these were very distinctly different scenarios, and I was entirely relaxed about Plumpton racing on that afternoon – as, it appears, were most of the connections of the intended runners.
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Jeremy Grayson. Son of immigrant. Adoptive father of two. Metadata librarian. Freelance point-to-point / horse racing writer, analyst and commentator wonk. Loves music, buses, cats, the BBC Micro, ale. Advocate of CBT, PACE and therapeutic parenting. Aspergers.
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