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In answer to Aragorn on (a) probably not and (b)yes he’d have been a real short price, would in winning the Arc he’d probably have shown he was back to being the sort of horse that looked something very special last autumn. For one reason or another this year, he has looked laboured and doesn’t look capable of producing the same level of form.
Wasn’t me that posted that! It was johnny!
Apologies Jackane…so use to blaming you for everything .. :)
At this time of year there has been a problem with horses coming off the pace on the Rowley course. Wonder how its looking this week?
This could suit HR, if MK can ride that type of race, but my feeling is that hes just not the same horse now…
I think the WFA debate comes into play here because I don’t think he’s that much different. He beat horses his own age in the KG, lost when going right handed for the first time and the Foy can’t really be taken at face value..
Someone suggested a sliding scale as the year progresses (Could have been EC) which seems in recent years to be favouring the 3yo’s’s’s’s’s
I’d agree Sir Percy is the strongest of the front 3 in the betting but there are some doubts and he is too short a price IMO.
Since my last post I have heard a good word for Confidential Lady. I am therefore boldly predicting <br>1st Confidential Lady<br>2nd Maraahel<br>3rd Notnowcato
Should be a nice Trifecta
Sorry Jackane for getting you in trouble with Clivex, I’m certain you have had enough stick in the past week or so.
Sounds like fun.<br>I have no reason to disbelieve your Longchamp expedetion but whether it’s true or not it was certainly entertaining.<br>And not everyday you get to feature in the RP.<br>I’m looking forward to futher expedition stories which i’m sure you will share with everybody on this forum.<br>
Are you going to Newmarket tomorrow Jackane24? I’m sure if you have a word Messers Tabor, Magnier and Smith will leave a badge for you at reception.;)
What do you mean leave a badge. Jackane is arriving in their helicopter with them.<br>
LMAO (rolls eyes)
I’m not going to HQ tomorrow no. Was going to go, but having seen that £35 is the entry price, no way.
I thought HR was unlucky in not finding running room when the vital moment arrived in the Arc and I think the straight galloping track will be right up his street, particularly if they adopt forcing tactics.
For me, on the evidence so far, he’s the best horse in the race.
However, Sir Percy could still be very, very good (as opposed to the very good he has chalked on the board already) so has to be respected and Pride is a horse of obvious ability who seems to be bang on form and, of the principals, would be the one you’d most expect to run her race.
All that said, it’s not a betting race for me. Too many Q’s around all the runners and also the possibility of it being an odd race (it just has that look about it). No surprise to see an unsatisfactory horse race although it could also be a cracker!
(Ouch… that fence gets right in where it hurts)
Quote: from apracing on 1:15 pm on Oct. 13, 2006[br]<br>I confess I’m completely mystified by the support for Detroit City. <br>
<br>Me too and similar applies to Saint Alebe, surely it would need massive leap of faith to back him at current odds
fair enough 03 form reads well enough, but found out on only try above 14f  in 03,  off 3 years,  the two runs this term don’t read anywhere that form and well beaten over 16f LTO
<br>I was waiting and hoping for the Teofilo v Eagle Mountain rematch, but it was’nt to be, Teofilo is a tempting price at 7/4, but would like slightly bigger odds, may back  Strategic Prince, who appeals as an alternative at fairly decent odds imo, though a little more improvement is needed to beat the market leader
<br>I think the Champion is between Sir Percy and Pride, though niether appeal at current odds, may lay Hurricane Run if he shortens some more, otherwise a watching brief
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(Edited by empty wallet at 2:48 am on Oct. 14, 2006)
Right todays selections are:
330 Sir Percy (nap) win at 11/4 One of the bets of the season – Has it in the bag
410 Hamoody e/w @11/1- has a great chance to win this if hes at his best, keeping the faith.
445 Puggy e/w @ 16/1 – Goes on the ground and will love the track, sure to be there or thereabouts, as will english ballet on this ground (seems to have been saved for this race and trainer had maids causeway primed for the same race 2 years ago, watch for the trademark barry hills heavy backing to suggest a big run on the cards). Bet on finsceal beo at longchamp but dont reckon todays conditions will suit a mr prospector filly as much so no value @5/2ish.
520 Bulwark @ 8/1 – the hurricane run of staying races, a consistent out and out galloper, if they go a fast pace, he wins, its that simple.
My Brother has had a tip for Detroit city from someone who is seldom wrong with his tips, however, I personally like Lightning strikes, but not with enough confidence to tip it.
Yeh I’ve decided that I think Theatre will win the Ces – as has been said, Detroit City was not very good on the flat at all, and the only form that is seeing him get backed is the Triumph/Aintree form.
Key Time is also a decent hope, but he won the same race Afrad did last year (Goodwood Stakes?), and that often turns out to be a not very good race.
Theatre came 2nd behind Key Timein that Goodwood race Jackane. Also tough draw to overcome from 2.
Well that’s my point. They came 1st-2nd, but it doesn’t tend to be a decent race a lot of the time. Theatre seems to be the only decent thing to have come out of Afrad’s win of the same race last year.
The draw may not be so good, but he’s carrying 8-0, so has got bags of weight on his side. I might just pick John Egan’s mount since he seems to be winning all the long handicaps this year!
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