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- January 20, 2018 at 14:49 #1338283
All the way down the straight I was screaming at the TV ‘don’t go too early Harry. Don’t let him outstay you’.
And yet he kicked too early and anyone on Ch’tibello knew what would happen.
Bloody hell. He ought to have known TNO would come again up the run in.
January 20, 2018 at 14:49 #1338284Excellent from TNO, stamina the edge over the skelton horse.
January 20, 2018 at 14:50 #1338285The New One harking back to his youth and his appetite for staying. At 16s he’s still way overpriced for the Stayers.
January 20, 2018 at 14:51 #1338286I thought his most impressive performance was when he won the neptune, or the ballymore, or whatever it’s called.
outpaced a future grand national winner and one of the most hyped horses from ireland ever. I guess that day showed he had that battle that has served him well over the years. maybe that’s another factor to put into the gingertipster pot of betting factors- the ability to get your head down and battle? because the new one has it and the second clearly doesn’t.
January 20, 2018 at 14:52 #1338287Grim stuff.
I think he was trying his best to hang on to Ch’tibello but TNO jumped right at the last, lost ground and made Skelton blow his load too soon.
January 20, 2018 at 14:54 #1338288The New One harking back to his youth and his appetite for staying. At 16s he’s still way overpriced for the Stayers.
Come and get it.
January 20, 2018 at 14:54 #1338289Skelton prematurely shot his wad and was left with something of a mess on his hands.
January 20, 2018 at 14:58 #1338291Nick Luck saying that NTD has confirmed he will go to the Stayers’.
January 20, 2018 at 14:58 #1338292I’ve had plenty of 65 and 50, thanks. Just trying to help out those who have not yet seen the light.
January 20, 2018 at 15:02 #1338293We were shouting it in unison then MOM. Ch’tibello was travelling really well, but I
knew if he gave TNO something to aim at in the last half furlong he would come back
at him. You just have to take it, and then take your hat off to TNO, he is just a
warrior who doesn’t know how to give up. Both ran very good races imo
January 20, 2018 at 17:42 #1338334I guess that day showed he had that battle that has served him well over the years. maybe that’s another factor to put into the gingertipster pot of betting factors- the ability to get your head down and battle?
It always has been, Judge.
“I can understand the arguement he only does enough to win and has a good strike rate outside the best of company”. Being a battler is a great attribute that wins races, but is only one aspect in pricing a race.
All the way down the straight I was screaming at the TV ‘don’t go too early Harry. Don’t let him outstay you’.
And yet he kicked too early and anyone on Ch’tibello knew what would happen.
Bloody hell. He ought to have known TNO would come again up the run in.
Just because a horse is travelling better than its rival, doesn’t necessarily mean it went too soon. Watching the race, always thought TNO the likely winner/would fight back. Chtibello is known to travel well and TNO always finds a great deal for pressure. Harry kept to Sam’s left which was the correct thing to do with TNO jumping right-handed… So was making the most of those clumsy jumps the correct thing. Had he kept hold of Chtibello for longer he would not have gained ground at the final hurdle and he’d have been trying to make up ground at the same time as TNO’s battling qualities were at their greatest. Much better getting as much lead as possible while travelling well and then trying to hold on. Only mistake I felt Skelton made was moving Chtibello closer to TNO between the last two flights, because imo TNO finds more when eye-balling others. ie If both were running far apart it might (and only might) have been a different story. However, overall I thought Harry Skelton rode a good race, just beaten by a better horse. Well done those who kept the faith.
Value Is EverythingJanuary 20, 2018 at 20:35 #1338357I love TNO. What a credit to the game and another ntd example where he keeps a horses enthusiasm
A horse that has had some awful abuse online (not here maybe) in the past too.
January 21, 2018 at 01:28 #1338389Inferior horses fighting over a race that will have zero impact on the Champion Hurdle.
None of those even belong in the same race as Buveur D’air.
The standard is bobbins behind the horse who will blow his field away in March.
Only injury can stop the double being run up easily.
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
January 21, 2018 at 10:32 #1338397Bit of a sad state of affairs if the only races or performances that can be enjoyed are championships
January 21, 2018 at 12:46 #1338421People are getting carried away lavishing praise on The New One. He’s proven time and again that he’s not Champion Hurdle class.
Luckily for him he has managed to hoover the crumbs while the very few really good hurdlers are busy elsewhere.
No harm in keeping a realistic viewpoint on the current state of affairs in the 2M hurdling division and an odds-on favourite, who could conceivably get shorter still, is a good indicator of very poor strength in depth in this discipline.
The New One is a grand old sort now and his winning percentage is high. He has tended to be kept to easy targets though, starting Evens and shorter an incredible fifteen times in his career.
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
January 21, 2018 at 14:36 #1338463I always felt that if STD got the fractions right during the race that he would outstay Ch’Tibello and even though Ch’Tibello was still on the bridle, I always got the feeling that he wasn’t going to find as much as TNO once he came off it.
This race really should be renamed to something else entirely as it can barely attracted horses that realistically are capable of performing in a Champion Hurdle – the TNO is a G2 winning machine who constantly gets his limitations exposed in G1s, Ch’Tibello looks like he is on that exact same path, Unison has been mainly running in Class 2/3/4 races and Clyne was brought back from a less than convincing stabb at novice chasing.
Not sure if this should remain a G2 going forward as dropping it to a G3 might encourage more runners to give it a go but the main issue is the fact that more often than not it is run in atrocious conditions, 3 of TNO wins have been on heavy ground with the other being on soft – Haydock must be one of the wettest places on the planet as whenever they have a meeting upcoming the only question seems to be is the course raceable after the rain they have had.
January 21, 2018 at 17:27 #1338494What rubbish
The idea that the new one has avoided tough targets is drivel. The so called easy targets are because he actually races regularly.
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