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  • #750952
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    Courtesy of silent forum member Layer72, and endorsed by THM:

    #750961
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    I hope you backed Blue Heron Steve (but with your luck, suspect you did not) :(

    Purple Bay must surely run now? He’d have a place chance.

    Am a bit annoyed at O’Grady’s post Red Mills comment that Kitten Rock might not run in the CH. He was touting the horse prior to its last outing and only on that basis (he knows a good horse when he sees one) did I take some 66s.

    Decided to leave him Joe, just the one bet this weekend.

    Thought I might bag some Ten To Follow points with Tea For Two but even that was too much to ask.

    Purple Bay must be worth a go and surely holds a better chance than Irving, at the same 50/1 odds, based on today’s result. Irving’s 25/1 price with Ladbrokes is nonsense in my opinion.

    Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.

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    Courtesy of silent forum member Layer72, and endorsed by THM:

    Willie Mullins semi-furtively indicates to Nigel Twiston-Davies where he thinks The New One will finish this year :shock:

    https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=willi … B615%3B409

    Unusually bullish from Willie there :shock:

    Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.

    #751191
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    Faugheen now going straight to Cheltenham –

    18 of last 19 winners all had a run that calendar year. Champagne Fever and Ballycasey both beaten last year when trying to defy similar absences or inexperience.

    I don’t really see what relevance Champagne Fever and Ballycasey have,

    Seriously ?! Two favourites, trained by the same man, and neither could defy the strong trends in their respective races ( Champagne Fever on time since last run, Ballycasey not racing in at least 3 chases before the festival ). Champagne Fever only just denied but fitness might have been the issue.
    Train a horse for some Grade 1s and being 90% fit might be enough but Cheltenham…

    That’s the relevance.

    And Faugheen may well defy the trend but i think it’s a tad unwise not to give it any credence at all.

    However, haven’t checked how many have tried

    * oh and before anyone gives Quevega as an example of getting one ready after a long absence, most of that field were nowhere near her class.
    Most Cheltenham races are won by horses who’ve raced within 4-8 weeks of the festival

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    Class and so True!

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    As Faugheen bolts away in The Champion Hurdle, Sam Twiston-Davies ponders his situation aboard The New One:-

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    Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.

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    :lol:

    Blackbeard to conquer the World

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    :lol:

    Looks like that’s silenced The New One’s supporters.

    "And it’s Faugheen striding home to win the Champion Hurdle by eight lengths, with Sam Twiston-Davies finishing with a wet snail to deny Purple Bay for second, Hurricane Fly a gallant fourth and Jezki fifth" :wink:

    Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.

    #751472
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    It will soon be time for proper cheerleading stuff Steve.

    Come on Faugheen.

    Blackbeard to conquer the World

    #751477
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    Well I keep looking through Faugheen’s profile for that piece of form that says he’s the banker of the meeting…will win easily etc…

    Still cant see it though…

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    Well I keep looking through Faugheen’s profile for that piece of form that says he’s the banker of the meeting…will win easily etc…

    Still cant see it though…

    It’s not just about Faugheen’s form though. Part of the reason he’s so short is the uninspiring looking wins by The New One and uninspiring runner-up finishes from Jezki. With Hurricane Fly being that year older and away from Ireland he’s probably a 50/50 call as an each-way shout and we’ll get more idea of where he stands with Faugheen once Ruby delivers his verdict on which one he will actually ride

    If the piece of form you are looking to see was in the book, then Faugheen would be a good bit shorter than he is now.

    He seems the only one of the leading three who seems to be improving and you could almost argue Jezki has regressed slightly this year.

    Faugheen is rated 168 for now but I’ll be disappointed if he doesn’t prove to be 175 in time, and for me that will be enough to win this year’s Champion Hurdle barring a mishap.

    They don’t all win of course but when he was 3/1 Faugheen seemed an OK bet to me, certainly more so than The New One at the same odds.

    If The New One can beat Faugheen he’ll be a worthy champion but, for me, his finest hour remains his Neptune triumph from two years ago.

    Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.

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    2014 County Hurdle runner-up Arctic Fire has improved 21 lbs since that run (official ratings). Given that most of that improvement seems to have come very recently, how much more might there be to come, especially on his favoured good ground?

    I’ve backed a couple of real longshots, but AF is beginning to make strong appeal as a serious EW candidate.

    On Faugheen, one curious factor (for me at least) is that Mullins wanted him to go over fences this year, and said so publicly after last year’s festival.

    I always thought of him as a chaser, and that´s what I would prefer to do, even though some people are saying he should go staying hurdling

    But when Faugheen won at Punchestown, his trainer said…

    It would appear that he´ll stay hurdling next season.

    Obviously the owner’s decision.

    Still, hard as I try to find a serious vulnerability in him, I can’t. He’s not a fluent hurdler, but it seems to make no difference whatever to him in either confidence or momentum. I haven’t seen him in the flesh, but on TV, there doesn’t look to be much length behind the saddle, but the width of his back end probably causes something of an illusion there.

    The way he drives so powerfully from the rear reminds me a bit of Frankel. I cannot get a good enough angle on TV to see how straight he tracks, and, at times, he looks to be galloping with his hind feet in much closer unison than you’d normally see, by which I mean it’s as though he’s preparing to take off at a jump, but instead it’s driving his momentum. Again, that might be an illusion(especially with his leg colourings) but I’d love to see him in super slomo. Whatever it is, there seems something freakish about him and I suspect that the best his rivals can hope for on March 10th is that he has his very first off-day. Even though I’ve not backed him, I hope he wins with authority and carries on to be jumping’s Frankel.

    What he’ll do over fences, I can’t even imagine. Good luck to him and all who’ve backed him.

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    What he’ll do over fences, I can’t even imagine. Good luck to him and all who’ve backed him.

    do you think he will go over fences if he wins the champion hurdle though? I cant see it?

    #751527
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    Wouldn’t be surprised if Faugheen followed a similar career path to Peddlers Cross. Has so far.

    #751545
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    "KingSprinterSacre":2rkc6m27 wrote: What he’ll do over fences, I can’t even imagine. Good luck to him and all who’ve backed him.

    do you think he will go over fences if he wins the champion hurdle though? I cant see it?

    He’s built for chasing and I suspect he’ll jump fences much better than he does hurdles. What distance will prove ideal, I don’t know, but it would be no surprise to see him win a Gold Cup

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    Wouldn’t be surprised if Faugheen followed a similar career path to Peddlers Cross. Has so far.

    Or David Price……looking a world beater flattening weak opposition, then found out when taking on the big boys….

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