Can You Beat The Bookies? BBC1 now

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    Gingertipster
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    Load of rubbiish so far.

    value is everything
    #1450670
    Gingertipster
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    Fake programme.

    Lloyd Griffith; you weren’t trying to beat the bookies.
    …Because that’s not what the BBC/society wanted the programme to be about.

    When the pros said about percentages, you ignored it.
    Could’ve explained how bookies compile their odds, explained odds and chances…
    …But no; just bet like a mug most of the time and then broke bookies rules by betting with no chance of losing…
    …And then portrayed it was somehow wrong when B365 restricted the account.

    :negative:

    value is everything
    #1450695

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    Good programme in my eyes. The answer is no you can’t beat the bookies unless prepared to do a lot of hard work (or get others to do it for you in one instance) or cheat.

    Most punters are mug bettors but that does not mean they should be taken advantage of and just left hung out with the washing if things get out of control. It’s now so easy to get a bet on anything and everything bookies should do more to help these vulnerable people.

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    Nathan Hughes
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    I didn’t watch it but whatever was on it Ginge you’d be massive odds on to disagree with it

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    #1450705
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    Watched half of it then went to bed. First thing i did this morning though, was to apply to go on a course to be a tennis umpire. :good:

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    “And then portrayed it was somehow wrong when B365 restricted the account”

    It doesn’t matter how you do it – if are you winner with “BET365” you will be restricted.

    #1450712
    Red Rum 77
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    Saw a little bit last night, and just caught up with BBC i player.

    NOTE : Panarama are doing a program about addictive gambling on Monday.

    Anyway back to this program, you’re not going to take money away from the bookmakers, you’re only going to take away ( and no disrespect here ) other mugs punter’s money.

    The only way you might take that money is to specialise on a subject, and identify value for money. But that’s like teaching your Grandmother to suck eggs, Ginge :whistle:

    #1450713
    Nathan Hughes
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    bookies beat themselves these days
    mug firms popping up and closing, betbright etc
    William Hill sacking staff, closing shops
    Coral and Ladbrokes having to merge
    bookies are weak, I’m a mug punter and I will out last them

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    #1450717
    Red Rum 77
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    Nathan, I didn’t like to name names here, so I’m glad you said it not me. For the record I count myself as a mug punter as some of my tips in various competitions shows. 😏

    Shops shutting are in my opinion a result of those FOBT maximum stakes reduce from £100 to £2 🤑

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    It doesn’t matter how you do it – if are you winner with “BET365” you will be restricted.

    From personal experience Matron, i do not think 365 restrict people for winning but more so winning consistently with large stakes. Thinking about it i would probably do the same if i had a betting company.

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    Gingertipster
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    I didn’t watch it but whatever was on it Ginge you’d be massive odds on to disagree with it

    Not true Nathan.

    With the name of the programme, I at least expected an explanation of how bookmakers work. Nothing about how if a bookie believes a selection is a fair 3/1 chance they add a mark up and offer 11/4. Two of the “pro’s” mentioned percentages and backing selections at better odds than they should be; but again no explanation of what that actually meant. I’m right now looking at a bloke on Chennel 5 – betting thousands on the roulette wheel and expecting to profit. If people don’t want gamblers to waste their money then the TV programme should explain the odds. Better explanation of how much mark up there is to FOBT’s etc could even help potential problem gamblers ignore the machines and concentrate on something they have a chance to beat the bookies at – sports betting.

    value is everything
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    …Because that’s not what the BBC/society wanted the programme to be about.

    Most of this type of programme are the same. They have clearly come up with a conclusion beforehand and then have to come up with a way of ‘proving’ it.

    This was pretty lightweight stuff. I didn’t have much faith when it started with his mum telling him to go and back anything wearing pink.

    The call the greyhound bloke got about an 8/11 favourite at Wolvo was pretty funny too. His mate was really sticking his neck out on that one. I believe he described it a special horse or something. It’s managed to finish last twice in a row since that day.

    Out of interest, does anyone know if the bookies get much legitimate business on all these tin pot tennis matches? I assume they must do or they wouldn’t keep offering it. There are literally hundreds of these matches every day and you can bet on every point. I can’t imagine there are that many people who actually have a clue about it. As the programme showed it seems very open to (very brief) abuse.

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    Red Rum 77
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    The “professional gambler” asked how much he should risked on this tip, to which the response was a monkey. So he added that he’ll stick an extra £50 for luck.

    Surely he’ll have a point system devised if he was a professional gambler and knows not to exceed it, in case it lost.

    The same professional gambler had a losing streak of 5 bets on the dogs and blamed the guy doing the program. Everyone has a losing streak and blaming the presenter was clearly unprofessional. :negative:

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    Nathan Hughes
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    Sounds more like a comedy
    I’m going to watch it

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p07hjnl6/can-you-beat-the-bookies

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    #1450731
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    @botchy1

    Mine was a single football win and the love affair was over.

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