Bumper Races whats the Point?

[Love Divine]

Maybe the owners of these increasingly lucrative (as they can cover mares all year round) jumping stallions should have to register their stallions as jumping stallions (for a fee) and the horses by those stallions would be eligable for bumpers?

But stallions marketed as jumping sires don’t cover mares all year round. Only fashionable flat sires that do that.

You mean if they shuttle to different hemispheres? I don’t know of any ‘flat’ stallions that would cover all year round in one country where a ‘two year old’ could be 2 and 3 months old (February covering, born following January) running against one which could be only be 16 months old(December covering, born following November) in an April meeting?

[Gingertipster]

Bulwark,

Denman did run in a point for Adrian Maguire before he was bought for Nicholls.

But why then are so many horses capable of running straight away over point to point fences without running on the flat / bumpers?

Most trainers use bumpers because that is what is expected of them. There is imo no evidence bumpers prepare a horse better for jumps than jumps races themselves. In fact the opposite is true. Ever wondered why French bred horses mature faster than English? Could it be that they race or train their horses over obsticles sooner? Therefore they are ready sooner.

Mark

Value Is Everything

[Venusian]

The French school their horses much earlier, and more frequently, than UK or Irish trainers.

That is why, in the main, French horses jump more consistently, and without having to be put right so much at the obstacles.

[yorkshirepudding]

Bumpers are a funnyone…

I have seen backward types run in wetherby three yearold bumpers and seen them a couple of years later in novice chases at the same course.

Yet I have won a seller over hurdlers with the sprinter/miler Looking Down, she was given a schooling run at Hexham too give her confidence back then shipped too Stratford, AP Mcoy in the plate who sat of a mad pace and took it up two from home, the winners trophy is on my mantlepiece, she was sold at the sale afterwards and never won again. She was a sprint bred on summer ground who had been with Mick Channon at two, this you can image what sort of campagn she had. Was she tougher than the jump breds she was facing, or simply a selling race landed by a wiley trainer as a masterful jockey?

I hate juvinile novice hurdles, the winners then have too face more mature animals the following year and often are physcally not mature enough.

I talked too a breeder onlline about racing juvinile novice hurldes, he brd NH stock and pointed out the hellish atrictan rate, having followed some stables who do well in those races and been in syndicates who have campagned horses in them i am inclined too agree.
I would rather see a ban on juvinile novice hurdles than bumpers.

I would like too see a french style hurdle become standerd, the english ones are horrid things ans horss can flatten then, at least with french ones the horses have too be able too jump them.

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