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- March 4, 2022 at 09:51 #1585678
And the stuff leavers promised. Where is it?
March 4, 2022 at 10:04 #1585679Well for a start that’s irrelevant pure whataboutery but of course many of the results of being out of the market have come to pass. Mosh immediately is freedom of movement. Many desired the end to that. Im not against fom at all as it happens.
Also as a net contributor there is a definite huge saving and that’s pure maths.
I also believe there are other long term benefits especially in fintech investment and cutting edge industries but I’ll leave it there.
March 4, 2022 at 10:53 #1585684We’ve had fuel / energy problems, pandemic and Ukraine which have / are caused / causing massive economic downturns since Brexit. All of which the EU has been affected by too.
On the whole I’d say we are no more worse off than the EU, but with all the above it is extremely difficult if not impossible to judge.
.Value Is EverythingMarch 4, 2022 at 14:24 #1585697I have been asking people to give me one positive reason for leaving for 5 years now. Nobody’s so far come up with one, just jingoistic bullshit.
I’m still waiting!
I've stumbled on the side of twelve misty mountains
I've walked and I crawled on six crooked highwaysMarch 4, 2022 at 15:28 #1585706I don’t think anyone could make a case right now of Brexit being good, bad or indifferent. Covid and now this war have nullified standard economic theory
March 5, 2022 at 01:25 #1585773How quickly we’ve gone from ‘we’ll prosper mightily’, to use the words of Boris Johnson, to let’s see how things are in five years/it’s all covid’s fault etc. Says it all really.
March 5, 2022 at 09:18 #1585802Says what exactly?
What did you or anyone else expect within a year? The clouds to open with gold coins?
You think western Economies go from Dubai to Venezuela (or the other way round) within 12 months ? Ever?
But remainers were quick to point to immediate economic catastrophy and mass unemployment (clegg osbourne) which was laughably wide of the mark
Did Boris set a timeline for that?
March 5, 2022 at 14:08 #1585851True Clive,
I strongly “campaigned” on TRF for Remain, thinking there may well be a massive economic downturn immediately after Brexit. Ashamed to say the day after the referendum I signed a petition for another one. I was WRONG!Value Is EverythingMarch 5, 2022 at 22:56 #1585905Boris did promise he had an oven-ready deal. Barely half-baked IMO.
March 6, 2022 at 00:38 #1585908When I’m feeling EU
All I have to do
Is take a look at EU
Then I’m not so blue
When you’re close to me
I can feel your heartbeat
I can hear you breathing in my ear
Wouldn’t you agree?
EU and me
Got a groovy kind of love**** the leaving
Putin wasn’t greivinMarch 6, 2022 at 01:04 #1585910US and THEM
We are only…
ordinary men
So WHY the phlegm ?March 6, 2022 at 01:16 #1585911There is no dark side of the moon
In fact its all dark
Wait until 2025
You’ll remember what it feels
to be …aliveAs Lake said..
Life’s short
BE HAPPYMarch 6, 2022 at 12:16 #1585953I’m still waiting for house prices to fall, what was it 15%-20% as warned by a number of commentators and so called experts on one side of the fence.
So what happened??
March 6, 2022 at 18:29 #1585969‘So what happened??’
Covid/wait five years/other excuse as you see fit.
Anyway, I’m still waiting for the Brexiter fairy stories to come true such as Turkey joining the EU, the NHS to receive billions in extra funding and the bonfire of red tape (businesses unsurprisingly face mountains more red tape than before when trading with EU countries). Any ideas?
March 6, 2022 at 18:38 #1585971No Richard88 ‘they’ said the fall would happen straight after if we voted to leave. That was in 2016. Where is the fall?
March 6, 2022 at 18:38 #1585972Covid “an excuse”
Do you realise that other economies shrunk due to lockdown too?
5 years “an excuse”
Really not going to let this go. The idea that brexit can be ascertained as a long term decision on the basis of a few months in what was a pandemic crisis is totally absurd. And which economic indicators are you using anyway?
Turkey did want to join the eu. Whatever you think of the scare tactics, it was not based on a lie.
Nick clegg stated firmly that 3m jobs would be lost because of brexit. That was calculated as every single job in Any way connected to exports to eu. That was slung around as a fact and assumed of course that the U.K. would be subjected to the same embargo as Iran…. Beyond ridiculous
March 6, 2022 at 18:40 #1585973That’s also true gsp
Same with employment
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