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  • #16329
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    My big pal Canford Cliffs may be heading for the Breeders Mile.

    Hate to say it but I pity anyone who has backed Goldikova because as good as she is this fellow wouldn’t see her in his way.

    Can’t be letting the girls have it all their own way can we?

    #319886
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    If Paco Boy turns up after his Foret spin, you can consider the little party accross the pond well and truly gatecrashed.

    #319890
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    would be a monster of a bet, CC in the BC Mile. would like to think paco can finally get goldikova on sunday aswell. also hoping for F&G now he has his ground in the arc.

    #319896
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    I sould know this but don’t as it’s never happend to me.

    What hapens if a horse is supplemented for a race after the AP market has opened?

    Eg You back horse A at 2/1 say and you wake up to find out a much better horse….Horse Z has been supplemented and you have a new fav who wins the race. Are you on without horse Z in the race or do you lose your money if horse A fished 2nd to horse Z 2nd?

    Not saying this is the situation here as I don’t know to be honest.

    If the rule is you lose surely that’s an invitation for someone to cheat by laying horse A.

    #319907
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    Please Fist stop sturring up the natives.

    #319917
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    It’s down to the racing being crap today Andy, AP had winners none of which I backed so I’m bored :twisted:

    #319973
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    TCI Closer Look: The Breeders’ Cup Mile
    http://www.breederscup360.com/archives/ … -the-mile/
    Major American players in the mile division include Proviso (she’s ours now!), Court Vision, Enriched, the tough gelding Get Stormy, Monmouth speedster Get Serious, and Sidney’s Candy.

    #320022
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    Interesting reading on Hannon’s website:-

    Plans still fluid for the big boys
    Canford Cliffs, denied the chance of a fourth G1 victory in last week’s QE11 Stakes at Ascot when he scoped badly 72 hours before the race, may yet run again this season.

    Richard Hannon, who would rather draw stumps and look ahead to the colt’s four-year-old career, said:"The owners seem keen to have another run, though there is nothing left for him in Europe, so I suppose if he does go again they will be looking at the Breeders Cup Mile in Kentucky as well as Japan and Hong Kong. If they decide against travelling him this year, we’ll pack him up until next season.

    "Paco Boy is on target to take on Goldikova again on Sunday in the Prix de Foret at Longchamp, and I would imagine that the owners will then sit down and decide whether to have one last roll of the dice at Churchill Downs, while Dick Turpin, who, like Canford, is coming back to us as a four-year-old, is not entered in the Challenge Stakes at Newmarket so he has just the one option if John Manley (owner) wants to run again, the Vittorio di Capua in Milan on Sunday week."

    Hardly surprising given that he is no fan of US racing and his previous runners there finished something like shot, last and 10th.

    Get the impression he doesn’t want either Paco or Canford to go but would prefer the former if required, especially as he is off to stud end of season.

    Obviously with Coolmore now involved in Canford stud wise, he has less influence in running plans.

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    I’d take delegator if he goes. I know they have Poets Voice in the mile division but Delegator is so quick and has just come back at the right time.

    #320122
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    More likley to step back in trip than up in trip Phil Delegator never quite seen out the mile but has bags of natural speed. I doubt if there’s many would get him off the bridle over 6f and that might be where he’s heading in the future.

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    The respective ability of Canford Cliffs was something of a hot topic since his demolition job at Royal Ascot last year.

    Initially a sceptic, my opinion of the horse did a 180 and I was certain he’d stay a mile, backing him at Newmarket and the Curragh.

    I questioned his ability to be as effective on a round course, but he subsequently make a mockery of that theory.

    Will he go, or won’t he? I’m not convinced he will, but even if he makes the journey to Churchill Downs, I would much rather have Goldikova on my side.

    I’ve said it before, but American racing is a completely different ballgame. Some horse thrive around those tight (left-handed) bends, others don’t.

    Goldikova has been there, done it and got more than one t-shirt. It would appear that the electric turn of foot she showed last year is a distant memory.

    One look at the opposition and, providing the ground isn’t soft in Louisville, the more I’m convinced she’s something of a good thing.

    I’m not convinced Poet’s Voice is in the same league just yet, although his late surge in the QEII bodes well and he should be suited to the style of racing Stateside. Rip Van Winkle will more than likely go for the Classic. Starspangledbanner does have a Group 1 victory at the highest level, but Carrara is not Goldikova and it remains to be seen it he has sufficient stamina to beat a specialist miler like the French mare. I’m not sure either Paco Boy or Makfi (the latter especially) will be ideally suited by the track.

    It’s been well documented that Paco Boy has one, short, powerful surge and, as we so often see in American racing, you need a prolonged stretch drive to stand any chance.

    The Champion Stakes is more than likely his preferred objective, but Fuisse would thrive at Churchill Downs. He travels well and rallys under pressure. He would be a danger, particularly if the ground came up the soft side of good.

    I’m quite tempted by a Goldikova / Midday double. One glance at the Filly & Mare card and I get the same impression – the challengers are coming up short.

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    This will probably be her final race and I really hope Goldikova goes out on a high. It will be tough for her to win three in a row, but she has the measure of all the other contenders and remains the one to beat.

    Gambling Only Pays When You're Winning

    #320305
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    You’re a big softy "H" :lol:

    Looks like your going to have your way as the Troggman looks like heading in my direction to the land of the Rising Sun.

    He can pick up over $1.5 million if he wins and I doubt if there will be anything in Goldikova’s class turns up.

    #320758
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    The 2/1 has now gone. Hardly surprising.

    Can anything stop her in Kentucky?

    #320761
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    I sure hope not!!! She is AMAZING!!! The ONLY obstacle I can see is IF they decide to send Sidney’s Candy to the Mile instead of the Turf (distance may be a factor for him)…in which case he will go out to the front (much like Presious Passion did last year in the Turf) and open a long and clear lead…if it is too easy of a lead he may be able to wire the field. I sure hope not. He is a NICE horse but I am a die hard Goldikova fan (as are most of us here) and I hope she mows them all down in the end!! Can’t wait to see her!

    :D

    #320787
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    Odds against on Goldikova, whatever she runs in, is Value, IMHO.

    I’ve taken 6/4 with Hills.

    BlueSky @pghenn.bsky.social

    So don't run, just like the others always do

    #320997
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    All the big names give me a headache.
    I’m sure this one will be full of surprises, but one thing I know for sure, Paco Boy won’t have his way on this one, he’s second to Goldikova and always will be. Case mighty Goldi lays a disappointment on her crowd of followers, I’d give Canford Cliffs a chance at this.

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