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Blanche is quoted in Wednesday’s Racing Post as saying “All the people we respect are on. It happened quickly but it was the right faces who wanted to back him. They got on decent sums of cash without the figures being earth-shattering. He could have a SP of 1/3 or even shorter”.
The pathetic Racing Post failed to tackle Boylesports or Blanche about this quote as did the hopeless Horseracing Bettors Forum rep Tanya Stevenson, when she had the opportunity on C4 on Saturday.
None of this nonsense which brings racing into disrepute could happen without thieving bookmakers and the silence from the BHA is deafening on the issue.
Sadly that’s the game we are in, the whole set up, and its participants, are trying to manipulate the system to their own ends. Last year was just as bad with Mullins horses:no one having a clue were they would end up running.
Gigginstown have put there money where there mouth is.Mullins said something along the lines of Douvan wasn’t sparkling at home and he’d rather another race, a slightly easier race for Douvan first time out not against the top grade 1 horses which sounds like he had no intention of running the horse anyway unless he was on fire at home on the gallops.
As for what Ruby Walsh said makes you wonder what goes on in his headGaelic Warrior Gold Cup Winner 2026
Yeats – we don’t know who did or didn’t back the horse with Boylesports so we don’t know if they were fibbing or not. We may have our views but it is incorrect to categorically accuse them of telling lies.
People backing ante=post, as in any form of investing, should do so only when taking into account all the information and assessments. Mullins’ is well known for last minute changes and not committing until as late as possible regarding running plans so any backing his or other horses in races he has multiple entries so getting involved in those races carries its own risks of which any punter worth his salt will be aware.
The faces might well have been on. Mullins doesn’t care about the faces. A man who is willing to make his most famous and vociferous owner look like a complete fool at the Cheltenham Festival, and a man who won’t compromise with one of the most powerful outfits in racing, Gigginstown…you think he gives a toss if a few ‘faces’ who think they have an in to the yard do their money?
As I said at the time (not that there should be a need for anyone to say it), the Mullins Vautour decision was as clear a message to antepost punters as you could wish for: avoid the yard at all costs. He couldn’t have explained it any better had he sent each of us a personal letter.
To complain now about being fooled is foolish in itself, and, I’d have thought, highly embarrassing.
cormack15 I’m quite comfortable calling them liars. How would people they “respect” or the “right faces” get a bet on with them anytime let alone Douvan?
The excellent Tony Calvin said as much in good little piece on the Betting Lab on Friday.
The faces might well have been on. Mullins doesn’t care about the faces. A man who is willing to make his most famous and vociferous owner look like a complete fool at the Cheltenham Festival, and a man who won’t compromise with one of the most powerful outfits in racing, Gigginstown…you think he gives a toss if a few ‘faces’ who think they have an in to the yard do their money?
As I said at the time (not that there should be a need for anyone to say it), the Mullins Vautour decision was as clear a message to antepost punters as you could wish for: avoid the yard at all costs. He couldn’t have explained it any better had he sent each of us a personal letter.
To complain now about being fooled is foolish in itself, and, I’d have thought, highly embarrassing.
Word perfect…Douvan will no doubt run in the King George now too.
Yeats – we don’t know who did or didn’t back the horse with Boylesports so we don’t know if they were fibbing or not. We may have our views but it is incorrect to categorically accuse them of telling lies.
People backing ante=post, as in any form of investing, should do so only when taking into account all the information and assessments. Mullins’ is well known for last minute changes and not committing until as late as possible regarding running plans so any backing his or other horses in races he has multiple entries so getting involved in those races carries its own risks of which any punter worth his salt will be aware.
We don’t know if the “right faces” in Boylesports books were backing Douvan; but if they were (according to what I’ve heard on RUK etc) they’re probably the only bookmaker. When a horse’s form suggests if it does run will be long odds-on – it doesn’t take much money/many bets for bookmakers to slash prices. Could even be just one or two smallish bets from profitable punters. I’ve noticed in the past this boylesports making some strange comments about ground suiting horses etc. However, it’s not the bookmakers I blame.
Can’t see how anyone can defend Ruby Walsh’s comments. To say Douvan’s price should never have been 5/1 strongly suggests he’s going to run. Douvan’s 5/1 odds was all about likelihood of running. After all, if Douvan is not going to run then 100/1 is a poor price. No doubt bookmakers knew Douvan wasn’t going as well as he usually does at home which was why 5/1 was available. If Nathan is correct then at the time Ruby Walsh made that statement Mullins knew Douvan wouldn’t run or at least very, very unlikely! Walsh encouraged punters to believe Douvan was right and by doing so encouraged punters to back Douvan! Walsh should not have made that statement unless he knew the horse was AOK and a probable runner. Can’t believe Ruby Walsh could be so stupid.
What’s more – Ruby’s statement did not just affect Douvan’s odds, it considerably pushed out the price of Un De Sceaux. So people in the know could get on at much bigger prices. Hope that was a coincidence!
Value Is EverythingHere’s the Mullins quote
“It was an easy enough decision to make, it was probably Un De Sceaux all the time as he’s used to travelling to France and the UK, while Douvan is only a novice going into Grade One company against horses who are well used to running in Grade Ones,” Mullins told At The Races.
“I had him (Douvan) in the race, but unless he was really sparkling I wasn’t going to send him and when I worked him he didn’t do enough for me for a big test like that, it’s early enough in the season.
“The ideal race for Un De Sceaux would have been the Hilly Way, but Douvan will go there now.
“I just want to get Douvan back and we’ll take it one race at a time.”Gaelic Warrior Gold Cup Winner 2026
Here’s the Mullins quote
“It was an easy enough decision to make, it was probably Un De Sceaux all the time as he’s used to travelling to France and the UK, while Douvan is only a novice going into Grade One company against horses who are well used to running in Grade Ones,” Mullins told At The Races.
“I had him (Douvan) in the race, but unless he was really sparkling I wasn’t going to send him and when I worked him he didn’t do enough for me for a big test like that, it’s early enough in the season.
“The ideal race for Un De Sceaux would have been the Hilly Way, but Douvan will go there now.
“I just want to get Douvan back and we’ll take it one race at a time.”Thats enough to suggest Willie is definitely running him in the King George then Nath..Hope I’m wrong mind.
I’m not sure Gord,
I think had he ran yesterday and beaten those seasoned top class horses he’d have had a nice break in between for the King George, it would have shown him mix it with the big boys. Depending on what turns up in the Hilly Way we won’t learn a lot and more of a risk imo.
We’ll soon find out.Gaelic Warrior Gold Cup Winner 2026
GT, I’d take anything coming from that yard, whether it’s from Ruby or the stable cat with a pinch the size of a Siberian salt mine. Ruby has a massive bee in his bonnet about the way he believes the UK press are treating Mullins and all he’s going to do is mess them about and wind them up.
Ruby will do and say what he wants as he’s always done and he’s getting as cantankerous as his father.
GT, I’d take anything coming from that yard, whether it’s from Ruby or the stable cat with a pinch the size of a Siberian salt mine. Ruby has a massive bee in his bonnet about the way he believes the UK press are treating Mullins and all he’s going to do is mess them about and wind them up.
Ruby will do and say what he wants as he’s always done and he’s getting as cantankerous as his father.
…Which is why the authorities should crack down on it, Joe.
Thee, me and most of TRF know what Mullins and Walsh say should be treated with the proverbial. But the racing public/punters do take notice and act on their often misleading words.
Value Is EverythingI’m all for reasonable punter protection but this is one they’ll need to learn for themselves. I cannot think of a rule that ‘racing’ could invoke to stop Walsh saying whatever he likes. Perhaps we need a ‘disrepute’ rule.
I’m all for reasonable punter protection but this is one they’ll need to learn for themselves. I cannot think of a rule that ‘racing’ could invoke to stop Walsh saying whatever he likes. Perhaps we need a ‘disrepute’ rule.
Under current rules of racing Joe, authorities can look in to whether what was said resulted in associates making financial gain. All they need to do is look in to whether anyone associated with Ruby Walsh backed Un De Sceaux at (because of his comments) a vastly inflated price.
Even if nothing is found, he wouldn’t make such stupid comments again.
Value Is EverythingFound this on Gord’s twitter account……
https://twitter.com/WilliePMullins/status/804280179854049280
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