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  • #1652686
    Avatar photoNathan Hughes
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    Billy doesn’t want the claim does he?
    He wants to bang in winners,
    be champion jockey
    and steal Ryan Moore’s job and he wants it now

    Charles Darwin to conquer the World

    #1652688
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    Two rides in the handicaps at Royal Ascot tomorrow, with a decent chance in one of them.

    #1654000
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    A high profile ride in one of the season’s big handicaps for young Billy today. Let’s hope if he is defeated it is not by a small margin.

    #1654068
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    In the frame if he could claim the five, possibly wins if he claims all seven.

    The weight counts for more at 2m.

    We can have fun with this one all the way to the Cesarewitch!

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    He has just ridden a winner in the Racing League. Unless I have miscounted, I think it is only 1 more until the claim is gone.

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    How time flies.

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    #1662244
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    https://www.racingpost.com/news/britain/blazing-billy-loughnane-rides-out-claim-just-11-months-on-from-debut-axjCu0f3CR1i/

    Welcome to a world where a horse can win a National less than a year and a half after setting foot on a racecourse for his first bumper, and a jockey can ride out his claim with indecent haste.

    Ian can’t be doing with this recklessness and will be backing Gina Mangan to beat him in the Ces by a short head.

    #1662249
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    Will he be King Billy or a silly Billy ….. We ‘ll find out in the next couple of years

    #1662254
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    “Ian can’t be doing with this recklessness and will be backing Gina Mangan to beat him in the Ces by a short head.”

    To be fair to Ms Mangan, I think she’s shown an improvement in recent seasons I hadn’t hitherto thought possible.

    Heather Main is among those who have believed in Gina – and her enduring claim!

    Good luck to Billy Loughnane, I hope he goes right to the top and in five years’ time none of this matters.

    But goodness me, I’m struggling to think of the last talented apprentice who rode so few big handicap winners in the course of riding out their claim.

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    He looks so ridiculously young. And now he has to ride against Moore, Murphy et all without a claim.

    The best of luck to him but I hope it does not prove to be unwise to have done too much too soon.

    #1662262
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    Ian,

    Tom Marquand – rode 67 winners in his first full year, 2015. The only race he won worth more than £20k to the winner was the Cesarewitch Trial, by which time his claim was down to 3lbs.

    In 2016, he picked up a £100k handicap at the Goodwood May meeting just before losing his claim.

    Sign of the times I suppose – the really big handicaps now have such a narrow weight range that there’s no reason to replace the usual jockey with someone that can do 7-7 – or even 8-7!

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    Thank you for that, Alan.

    Well, it doesn’t seem to have done Tom Marquand any harm, so hopefully it won’t stop Loughrane.

    But he doesn’t seem to me to have had a particularly rounded introduction to British Flat racing as he’s ridden out his claim in a relative blink of the eye, with many winners what looked to me like steering jobs on the AW, with him and his claim often deployed (squandered?) just to make sure.

    Really interesting comment about the narrowed (and increased minimum) weight range and the sign of the times – yes, I suspect that must have a lot to do with it.

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    Benoit de la Sayette is 2nd in the apprentice jockeys’ table. He was the next big thing a couple of years ago. I see that he rode out his claim in March, having preserved it a bit more than Loughnane’s partly by avoiding sandpit donkeys but more effectively by shovelling cocaine up his nose and earning a six month holiday. Young Billy may be “ill advised” re: sandpit donkeys but at least he has so far had the wit to avoid that particular rising star rite of passage.

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    Going back to the question of using a claim to help win a big handicap, you’d think the Cesarewitch would be a prime candidate, given the extreme distance. But the only apprentice ridden winner in the last 25 years was Aaim To Prosper in 2010, on whom Louis-Pierre Beuzelin claimed 3lbs and rode at 7-13. I wonder what happened to him?

    Perhaps though it’s winning on bad horses on the AW that shows the apprentice with the skills. I remember being told in 2002 that Ryan Moore was future champion jockey material. And the man who told me was that lovely old character, the late Milton Bradley, after Moore had caused a major upset by winning a 16 runner claimer at Lingfield on a 32 rated horse that Milton trained!

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    Lol Milton prob knew bad had his horse truly was

    #1665249
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    Billy Loughnane in the last at Epsom in the Amo racing colours.

    I’m reading too much into it…

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    I hope so ….. The lad doesnt want to be going near that shower

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