Home › Forums › Big Races – Discussion › Sprint Cup 2014
- This topic has 33 replies, 10 voices, and was last updated 10 years, 2 months ago by stevecaution.
-
AuthorPosts
-
September 2, 2014 at 16:42 #489652
Yes, I’d be wary of Aljamaaheer Darren. The trainer didn’t think he was suited by a pure sprint last time, even though they had trained him to be more attacking in his race. The going at Haydock is currently good to soft/soft in places but the forecast is for dry and warm weather. I reckon they’ll probably swerve the Sprint Cup
The boys on Gordon Lord Byron early have got good odds based on his impressive win last year but he hasn’t won since and although a good enough second last time up, the winner Jamesie isn’t exactly top class and prior to that Group 3 win he had three handicap and one maiden win to his name.
Gordon Lord Byron whipped Slade Power in this last year but the favour was returned at Royal Ascot in the Jubilee and the former horse doesn’t really have a pure sprinter’s profile. He’s been plying his trade over further, up to a mile and, even if 6f is OK for him here, I’d be concerned if he really is back to somewhere like his best and if the ground dries up will he have the necessary toe?
I wonder if Gordon Lord Byron was flattered a bit in winning last year? Favourite Lethal Force ran like a lavvy u-bend and Slade Power struggled to finish much in front of Hoof It and Hawkeyethenoo. I just have the feeling last year’s champ might have struggled with the Slade Power we have seen this season, and the added lack of a win since then puts me off at current odds.
If I had to pick one I’d probably risk
G Force
, who generally runs well and was making good improvement early this season. He has a tendency to find trouble after being held up and it looked to me that he would have placed in the Nunthorpe without the interference. He made his debut in a 7f race but surprisingly hasn’t been tried beyond 5f since. Several of his races have seen him looking like an extra furlong would have helped and while it is not guaranteed to help him it is surely worth giving it a try to find out. The hope is that the extra furlong may help him and at the same time take the edge off Sole Power’s finishing kick. In an open affair, with questions all round, he’d be my each way pick
Good luck to all.
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
September 3, 2014 at 16:19 #489712MUSIC MASTER for me it is now
September 3, 2014 at 19:50 #489720Damn John bloody Gosdens – he is running Gregorian so Joseph O’Brien takes the ride on GLB!! All the ante post value snaffled disappeared up in smoke no freekin chance now
September 3, 2014 at 20:46 #489724Yes, can’t say I’m happy with the booking – or the going forecast – but I did have a saver on Sole Power at bigger prices earlier in the week in expectation of that. Still need Gordon for the big bucks though.
Lee
September 4, 2014 at 07:15 #489732O’Brien now switches to Cougar Mountain with Wayne Lordan taking over.
although, truth be told, I’d have been just as happy if it was Wayne Rooney getting the leg up.
Lee
September 4, 2014 at 18:09 #489754Saw that, happier but wudda preferred Buick
Like you, I’ve had a saver at 9/2 on Power but Henry Candys Music Master looks the big improver
September 5, 2014 at 00:16 #489773No horse has retained the Sprint Cup since Be Friendly. I’m not sure how many have tried, but that sounds like a fairly significant stat against Gordon since sprinters tend to stick around for a few seasons.
September 5, 2014 at 07:17 #489774When was the last time a horse won it so easily the previous year ?
To pull a Gosden; "I am concerned about the ground" but the trainer doesn’t appear to be in todays RP and if Sole Power doesn’t see out the extra furlong so well then GLB is going to be hard to beat.
Lee
September 5, 2014 at 17:53 #489799I’ve talked myself into an each-way bet on Professor at 33s, although I’m a bit gutted as he was 50/1 earlier in the week.
3 wins from 4 runs at Haydock
4 wins from 8 over 6 furlongs
2 from 2 over course and distance
Conceded 9ibs to Baccarat when 2nd in the Wokingham and has preformed admirably in his 3 starts since, all over 7 furlongs.
I also like to fact he has only once been out of the first 3 in his 8 starts over 6 furlongs, and that was when coming 4th.
I may be wrong and his recent form will prove that he’s well below this standard but I’ve made bets like this in the past, the majority don’t come off but the odd one does so there you have it.
September 5, 2014 at 20:09 #489809Cougar Mountain looks the one for me at 12/1. He has ran two excellent races in Group 1’s this summer and with just the three career starts he remains extremely unexposed. He was the first horse off the bridle last time in the Nunthorpe but he kept going all the way to the line and a return to 6f is sure to suit.
Sole Power is a top class sprinter at five furlongs but hasn’t been able replicate that form at six thus far and for that reason I’m willing to pass him over. Likewise Gordon Lord Byron has been a reliable sort in Group 1’s over the past couple of seasons (including winning this race last year) but he seems at his best with a bit of ease in the ground. At the prices I think the Ballydoyle horse is better value than these two.
A shame Slade Power can’t run, he’d be very much the horse to beat.
September 6, 2014 at 10:45 #489868Absolutely wrong in the head if you’re backing Sole Power at 7/2.
September 6, 2014 at 11:38 #489874I saw Sole Power as low as 5/2 yesterday and I think he’s very skinny for a horse who has never won at the trip.
Other horses in the field haven’t won at the trip either but some of those haven’t tried the 6f yet. Sole Power has had 7 runs at this distance without success and he comes here as something of a stand-in for Slade Power.
It probably says something about the overall strength of the opposition that a horse with such a big gap in his CV is still favourite for this race.
In theory it is a question of holding on to Sole Power for an extra furlong and then producing him with his, normally, irresistible finishing kick. The question will be if that spurt is still in the tank or has dissipated to an extent that he can’t pass the leaders.
Not for me at odds you could have had when he won the Nunthorpe at his favourite trip.
Music Master is one of the few with no concerns regarding form, going and trip and he’s my alternative to G Force who was the pick and I took some 12/1 on him each way as the main bet.
Good luck with Cougar Mountain Tommy, he wasn’t beaten that far in a race of heads and necks all the way down to his 9th place last time out. I have a worry that he’s a bit inexperienced for the hustle bustle of this challenge though.
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
September 6, 2014 at 14:46 #489890Cracking race, and I’d love Sole Power or Gordon Lord Byron to land it, but happy to take a chance each way on
Es Que Love
@ 22’s.
GL
September 6, 2014 at 19:05 #489895Steve -great shout with G Force. Race went exactly how I thought it would and do not mind losing to a cracker like that from the best new trainer on the block! With hindsight maybe Wayne could have held on for a tad longer but winner won very well do probably make no difference, nice place money and had the FC to £2
September 7, 2014 at 07:23 #489908If I had to pick one I’d probably risk
G Force
, who generally runs well and was making good improvement early this season. He has a tendency to find trouble after being held up and it looked to me that he would have placed in the Nunthorpe without the interference. He made his debut in a 7f race but surprisingly hasn’t been tried beyond 5f since. Several of his races have seen him looking like an extra furlong would have helped and while it is not guaranteed to help him it is surely worth giving it a try to find out. The hope is that the extra furlong may help him and at the same time take the edge off Sole Power’s finishing kick. In an open affair, with questions all round, he’d be my each way pick
Good luck to all.
Great call Steve,the winner certainly showed his Nunthorpe run was down to bad luck and the step up in trip was perfect.Keep up the good work.
September 7, 2014 at 12:02 #489920Thank you lads. I watched the Nunthorpe several times and became convinced G Force should have been second. A couple of times I saw him run earlier this year he met a little bit of interference when coming with his run and also looked like 6f would suit. Ascot and then Hong Kong are said to be his targets.
Gordon Lord Byron ran an excellent race. It was by far his best run since last year’s renewal. They seemed keen to make sure that they drew the sting out of the closers and it almost came off.
It’s odd the way that punters latched on with seemingly childlike faith that Sole Power could do something he hadn’t done in seven previous attempts at the trip. He was a bit unlucky but that is always part of the risk with his style of running.
Hot Streak was bitterly disappointing. His trainer’s declaration that he is the best he has ever trained lies in tatters and you get the feeling that The Grey Gatsby is holding his right fore hoof out over the door of his box and sending a "Nescafe Coffee Beans shaking gesture" in Kevin Ryan’s direction.
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
September 13, 2014 at 13:45 #490178Muthmir for next year’s renewal? He just won the Portland in terrific style after seemingly having lost his chance being sandwiched between two runners.
9/1 when betting opened for today, returned 3/1f. Tasty!
25/1 for the Qipco Sprint Stakes, catch it if you can!
16/1 Ayr Gold Cup will surely vanish as well.
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
-
AuthorPosts
- You must be logged in to reply to this topic.