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December 31, 2011 at 12:58 #385117
Happy new year Kingy ….I think its more that 2 secs , more like 4/5 minimum , but in any event its not sensible to compete against those 54 per centers who gobble up trackside , after your horse has fallen or stumbled…..and then you have the automated programmes who snaffle up money before you can sneeze ….
Leave it out
Ricky
December 31, 2011 at 13:05 #385122A Happy New Year to you too Ricky,lets hope its a prosperous one for all us REAL Punters fighting the ‘Machine’ called ‘Bots’!
And it is nearer 2 seconds delay! Dont argue!
December 31, 2011 at 13:08 #385123I am fully aware that for betting in-running to function it has to be computer controlled. My concern is purely philanthropic as I would not consider such a wager as ever being sensible. Before the days of computer controlled systems in shop, taking bets after the off was the norm, it still did not give the punter any great advantage in the long run.
Betting in-running may be good for the gambling industry but it does not actually provide much benefit to the sport of horse racing or any other sport for that matter.Perhaps it is a forlorn hope to wish that punters were not so naive as to think Betfair has a concept of what fairness actually means.
December 31, 2011 at 13:17 #385127It does not seem sensible to me either. But remember computers can only do what they’ve been programmed to do. They’ve no concept of value. That’s why Mourad was being matched at 1.03 long after he was beaten !! And it’s also how I managed to back Organised Confusion at 28/1 with 2 to jump in the Irish Grand National. So sometimes, you can get very lucky. Even those who backed VLV at 7/2 on the run-in on the Daq spotted an opportunity and took it.
December 31, 2011 at 15:04 #385147Betting in-running may be good for the gambling industry but it does not actually provide much benefit to the sport of horse racing or any other sport for that matter.
Eclipse,for as much as you dislike the exchanges i for one think its the best thing since sliced bread,Betting in Running is what makes up at least 50% of my betting,today anyone who watches horses couldn’t fail to see that
Rey Nacarado
,
Ballyoliver
and
Glens Boy
all travelled like the winners they duly were a long way from home and 7/4, 7/2 and 3/1 was freely available on all 3,mind you we all saw what good that was to poor Glens Boy but it ‘should’ have yielded 3 winners.You couldn’t do that 20yrs ago…Rise of the robots eh?
December 31, 2011 at 19:23 #385189I can’t believe there are people out there who actually think they should benefit from this.
Childish Greedy lowlifes the lot of them and if that includes any of you lot then too bad. Wear the badge it suits you.
I would suggest that the person attempting the laying using the bot to guarantee a profit for himself without the risk is a much bigger lowlife than any of those attempting to back the horse at 29. He even had a failsafe of only having a £1000 in his account.
If you’re appalled at punters trying to back a horse at 29 in running God knows what you’d make of some of the activities that occur behind closed doors at Betfair Towers.
Have a look at the betting next time any horse falls or a goal is scored.
Are you for real? I’m not talking about the innocents who thought Wow! and backed the horse who wouldn’t?
I’m talking about people who now know full well it was an error and Betfair had no choice but void the race but they are still saying "I want paid".
Perhaps you do but I personally don’t know enough about the guy who laid it or how it actually happened to be passing judgement on him.
December 31, 2011 at 19:28 #385191Betting in-running may be good for the gambling industry but it does not actually provide much benefit to the sport of horse racing or any other sport for that matter.
Eclipse,for as much as you dislike the exchanges i for one think its the best thing since sliced bread,Betting in Running is what makes up at least 50% of my betting,today anyone who watches horses couldn’t fail to see that
Rey Nacarado
,
Ballyoliver
and
Glens Boy
all travelled like the winners they duly were a long way from home and 7/4, 7/2 and 3/1 was freely available on all 3,mind you we all saw what good that was to poor Glens Boy but it ‘should’ have yielded 3 winners.You couldn’t do that 20yrs ago…Rise of the robots eh?
I had an odd 24 quid in my Betfair balance so I stuck it on your fav horse at 14.5 but my bottle went when the cavalry came charging at him and I greened out for a lousy 84.57p. Sometimes you love exchanges sometimes you hate em
December 31, 2011 at 19:49 #385194Surely that is the art of gambling? Never second guess yourself.
December 31, 2011 at 20:02 #385197To be honest with him being a horse who almost always hits the front and tries to stretch them plus the race looked nothing special I thought I’d back to lay. Never expected him to win so I was looking at the race negatively and not what was actually happening so I just thought "click". Actually I think my finger was nervous and he beat me too it
January 13, 2012 at 14:42 #386741Currently our site is unavailable. Friday 13th
The lay value was the largest number allowed by a 32 bit signed integer. If this value was then multiplied be the odds, the overflow number is £-0.28.
One line of code would have prevented this bet thro’.
Something like :
if ( onerror, goto "reject", goto "betaok" )
January 13, 2012 at 21:52 #386784Kingy , my fav poster (next to the genius that is Gamble of course )
Just to clear up some house keeping
I have a goodish bot and have been following the recing to see what the delay actually is , by this I mean the nmber of seconds lapsed before a race starts on the telly , the seconds will be already clicking along on my friendly bot …
The results are as follows
ATR UK racing 5 seconds
ATR Dundalk 1 sec
Ruk 1 second all races
channel 4 varies , but largely 2 seconds
Dundalk is an interesting one , bt its good all the same
Happy Punting
Ricky
January 15, 2012 at 11:11 #386959Thanks for your endorsement Ricky.
Gord is in another parish to him
and puts up real selections
and has a zest long gone in the
ol’ mac – gamble merely shuffles
spirits and stirs discontent
as he prepares himself for his box.I did not realise you had a bot !
and gamble probably ought get one
to play for him in absentia
Oh stars of fortune
– such a goddamned strange
year on the machine it has been
with many months of absinthe.Duncoln Disorderli one of the old
blue fishermen has a keen eye
for in running and uses old charts
and a timed cut off point for each distance
never daring to fish inshore.
I believe he rarely gets mugged
apart from a premium big white
which stalks his little boat continuouslyApril 9, 2012 at 11:35 #399779looks like someone is planning to take on Betfair, see http://www.vlvclaim.com
April 10, 2012 at 13:46 #399887IBAS have already ruled in favour of Betfair in this case so I don’t know what the next step is.
April 10, 2012 at 17:53 #399910Only a complete moron would even suggest taking on Betfair over this. No one in their right mind would expect to be paid when they were clearly got at.
That claim is nothing more than a cheap publicity stunt and you can bet whoever is behind it is doing it for purely selfish reasons.
They are simply out to use people stupid enough to listen knowing well fine they can’t possibly win.
It stinks of the age old story if you want to be successful be controversial.
April 10, 2012 at 18:06 #399912My first thoughts were phishing then a scam – there will be some punters gullible enough to see a website that appears serious and well put together and will willingly pay money to someone to lead a case to get them ‘their money’.
That’s gambling, surely if you have an ‘interest’ in voided bets at tasty prices you could just wait and see, if ‘they’ win the case, you should get weighed as well.
Ah, but of course, more chance of success if you all donate.
April 11, 2012 at 19:28 #400020if the VLV backers have a case on legal grounds, very unlikely that Betfair would go to court and presumably would offer an out of court settlement conditional on non-disclosure agreement.
So those not joining in looking for a "free ride" on expectation of a court decision would probably miss out…. if the group has a case
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