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  • #385117
    Avatar photoricky lake
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    Happy new year Kingy ….I think its more that 2 secs , more like 4/5 minimum , but in any event its not sensible to compete against those 54 per centers who gobble up trackside , after your horse has fallen or stumbled…..and then you have the automated programmes who snaffle up money before you can sneeze ….

    Leave it out

    Ricky

    #385122
    Avatar photoKINGFISHER
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    A Happy New Year to you too Ricky,lets hope its a prosperous one for all us REAL Punters fighting the ‘Machine’ called ‘Bots’! :shock:

    And it is nearer 2 seconds delay! Dont argue! :lol:

    #385123
    Eclipse First
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    I am fully aware that for betting in-running to function it has to be computer controlled. My concern is purely philanthropic as I would not consider such a wager as ever being sensible. Before the days of computer controlled systems in shop, taking bets after the off was the norm, it still did not give the punter any great advantage in the long run.
    Betting in-running may be good for the gambling industry but it does not actually provide much benefit to the sport of horse racing or any other sport for that matter.

    Perhaps it is a forlorn hope to wish that punters were not so naive as to think Betfair has a concept of what fairness actually means.

    #385127
    SoYouThink
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    It does not seem sensible to me either. But remember computers can only do what they’ve been programmed to do. They’ve no concept of value. That’s why Mourad was being matched at 1.03 long after he was beaten !! And it’s also how I managed to back Organised Confusion at 28/1 with 2 to jump in the Irish Grand National. So sometimes, you can get very lucky. Even those who backed VLV at 7/2 on the run-in on the Daq spotted an opportunity and took it.

    #385147
    Avatar photoKINGFISHER
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    Betting in-running may be good for the gambling industry but it does not actually provide much benefit to the sport of horse racing or any other sport for that matter.

    Eclipse,for as much as you dislike the exchanges i for one think its the best thing since sliced bread,Betting in Running is what makes up at least 50% of my betting,today anyone who watches horses couldn’t fail to see that

    Rey Nacarado

    ,

    Ballyoliver

    and

    Glens Boy

    all travelled like the winners they duly were a long way from home and 7/4, 7/2 and 3/1 was freely available on all 3,mind you we all saw what good that was to poor Glens Boy but it ‘should’ have yielded 3 winners.You couldn’t do that 20yrs ago…Rise of the robots eh?

    #385189
    Avatar photoHurdygurdyman
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    I can’t believe there are people out there who actually think they should benefit from this.

    Childish Greedy lowlifes the lot of them and if that includes any of you lot then too bad. Wear the badge it suits you.

    I would suggest that the person attempting the laying using the bot to guarantee a profit for himself without the risk is a much bigger lowlife than any of those attempting to back the horse at 29. He even had a failsafe of only having a £1000 in his account.

    If you’re appalled at punters trying to back a horse at 29 in running God knows what you’d make of some of the activities that occur behind closed doors at Betfair Towers.

    Have a look at the betting next time any horse falls or a goal is scored.

    Are you for real? I’m not talking about the innocents who thought Wow! and backed the horse who wouldn’t?

    I’m talking about people who now know full well it was an error and Betfair had no choice but void the race but they are still saying "I want paid".

    Perhaps you do but I personally don’t know enough about the guy who laid it or how it actually happened to be passing judgement on him.

    #385191
    Avatar photoHurdygurdyman
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    Betting in-running may be good for the gambling industry but it does not actually provide much benefit to the sport of horse racing or any other sport for that matter.

    Eclipse,for as much as you dislike the exchanges i for one think its the best thing since sliced bread,Betting in Running is what makes up at least 50% of my betting,today anyone who watches horses couldn’t fail to see that

    Rey Nacarado

    ,

    Ballyoliver

    and

    Glens Boy

    all travelled like the winners they duly were a long way from home and 7/4, 7/2 and 3/1 was freely available on all 3,mind you we all saw what good that was to poor Glens Boy but it ‘should’ have yielded 3 winners.You couldn’t do that 20yrs ago…Rise of the robots eh?

    I had an odd 24 quid in my Betfair balance so I stuck it on your fav horse at 14.5 but my bottle went when the cavalry came charging at him and I greened out for a lousy 84.57p. Sometimes you love exchanges sometimes you hate em :wink:

    #385194
    Eclipse First
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    Surely that is the art of gambling? Never second guess yourself.

    #385197
    Avatar photoHurdygurdyman
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    To be honest with him being a horse who almost always hits the front and tries to stretch them plus the race looked nothing special I thought I’d back to lay. Never expected him to win so I was looking at the race negatively and not what was actually happening so I just thought "click". Actually I think my finger was nervous and he beat me too it :mrgreen:

    #386741
    quadrilla
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    Currently our site is unavailable. Friday 13th :oops:

    The lay value was the largest number allowed by a 32 bit signed integer. If this value was then multiplied be the odds, the overflow number is £-0.28.

    One line of code would have prevented this bet thro’.

    Something like :

    if ( onerror, goto "reject", goto "betaok" )

    http://www.racingpost.com/news/horse-ra … ts/974689/

    #386784
    Avatar photoricky lake
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    Kingy , my fav poster (next to the genius that is Gamble of course )

    Just to clear up some house keeping

    I have a goodish bot and have been following the recing to see what the delay actually is , by this I mean the nmber of seconds lapsed before a race starts on the telly , the seconds will be already clicking along on my friendly bot …

    The results are as follows

    ATR UK racing 5 seconds

    ATR Dundalk 1 sec

    Ruk 1 second all races

    channel 4 varies , but largely 2 seconds

    Dundalk is an interesting one , bt its good all the same

    Happy Punting

    Ricky

    #386959
    Avatar photogamble
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    Thanks for your endorsement Ricky.
    Gord is in another parish to him
    and puts up real selections
    and has a zest long gone in the
    ol’ mac – gamble merely shuffles
    spirits and stirs discontent
    as he prepares himself for his box.

    I did not realise you had a bot !
    and gamble probably ought get one
    to play for him in absentia
    Oh stars of fortune
    – such a goddamned strange
    year on the machine it has been
    with many months of absinthe.

    Duncoln Disorderli one of the old
    blue fishermen has a keen eye
    for in running and uses old charts
    and a timed cut off point for each distance
    never daring to fish inshore.
    I believe he rarely gets mugged
    apart from a premium big white
    which stalks his little boat continuously

    #399779
    MaoriVenture
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    looks like someone is planning to take on Betfair, see http://www.vlvclaim.com

    #399887
    davidbrady
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    IBAS have already ruled in favour of Betfair in this case so I don’t know what the next step is.

    #399910
    Avatar photoHurdygurdyman
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    Only a complete moron would even suggest taking on Betfair over this. No one in their right mind would expect to be paid when they were clearly got at.

    That claim is nothing more than a cheap publicity stunt and you can bet whoever is behind it is doing it for purely selfish reasons.

    They are simply out to use people stupid enough to listen knowing well fine they can’t possibly win.

    It stinks of the age old story if you want to be successful be controversial.

    #399912
    Avatar photosberry
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    My first thoughts were phishing then a scam – there will be some punters gullible enough to see a website that appears serious and well put together and will willingly pay money to someone to lead a case to get them ‘their money’.

    That’s gambling, surely if you have an ‘interest’ in voided bets at tasty prices you could just wait and see, if ‘they’ win the case, you should get weighed as well.

    Ah, but of course, more chance of success if you all donate.

    #400020
    MaoriVenture
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    if the VLV backers have a case on legal grounds, very unlikely that Betfair would go to court and presumably would offer an out of court settlement conditional on non-disclosure agreement.

    So those not joining in looking for a "free ride" on expectation of a court decision would probably miss out…. if the group has a case

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