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Remains to be ascertained how it got there, but the horse faces disqualification from third for testing for a banned substance.<br>Good job it didn’t win for several reasons:-<br>- embarrassment and bad publicity if the winner of a major race is disqualified e.g. Tour de France cycling<br>- tears all over Japan<br>- heavy payout on the "winner"
Looking for excuses Zorro?:biggrin:
So was the test carried out immediately after the Arc and the results are only just in now? Does testing take that long elsewhere?
Horse racing authorities are actually amongst the fastest in the sporting world at returning dope tests. This wouldn’t have been an unreasonable length of time for the processing procedure and for reports to be passed to the authorities and then on to the press.
yes i’m looking looking for excuses. still can’t understand why he ran so much below his previous 2006 form.:cool:
I honestly think the likeliest answer for Deep Impact being below form was that he wasn’t quite as fit as what his trainer thought. He certaionly shaped as if short on peak fitness, travelling the strongest until finding less than seemed likely.
If the race had been in Japan, would the fact that Deep Impact had been undergoing such treatment not have to have been made public prior to the race? Or am I confusing it with the Hong Kong rules?
To be fair to Zorro, Mortisha, Deep Impact was cantering all over them three out. I think he ran a cracking race. But when let down, he showed less than anticipated.<br>Of course, there are those who will say that he was ‘got at’. An awful lot of money was bet on the horse after all.<br>I’m not getting into that kind of debate though. Too much guesswork and not enough fact to make it worthwhile.
Quote: from Zorro on 11:26 am on Oct. 20, 2006[br]yes i’m looking looking for excuses. still can’t understand why he ran so much below his previous 2006 form.:cool: <br>
Whats the likelyhood of fines or bannings being imposed or as this is Japan, is Hara-Kiri is the only honourable solution??
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‘Spectacularly’ is an interesting choice of word, mortisha.<br>And if you think the pre-illness Silent Witness was a false alarm, then I can’t belive you’ve been paying attention.:cool:
<br>Anybody that expresses clear and strong opinions about a thoroughbred is setting themselves up to proved wrong – that’s one of the things that makes the sport endlessly fascinating.
Better a journalist that is prepared to be wrong than one that never gets off the fence in the first place.
AP
Quote: from Mortisha on 7:13 pm on Oct. 19, 2006[br]Oh no, the German people were basically led astray.<br>However the Japs are a wicked torturing race by nature. You just have to watch their game shows to see that the nasty streak is in their genes.<br>
M,<br>I understand from the content of your other posts (one of which is deleted but reproduced by another poster later in the thread) why you may be prejudiced against the Japanese. Unfortunately in a world war, many war crimes and unspeakable acts of cruelty are perpetrated and we should not forget the treatment meted out by the Japanese to WW11 Allied prisoners of war.<br>However I am not sure that it is fair to taint a whole current race for acts which took place 60 years ago, when most Japanese weren’t even born.<br>The site and thread are for horse racing issues, not an opportunity to smear races.<br>I also wouldn’t you or the site to fall foul of the Public Order Act or race hate legislation by being deemed to have published offensive material in public. Have your prejudices but don’t commit them in writing in the public arena.<br>Before anyone accuses me of being lefty, sanctimonious or "right on PC" I am none of these things and am cynical about much of that stuff. Just felt this needed to be said.
It is if you are me…;)
No Mortisha, I have to agree with others on this one. In the past certainly, the Japanese, as you say, had a mean streak and were suicidal, hence 2 A-Bombs being dropped rather than 1 – they wouldn’t have surrendered otherwise.
But it is 60 years on. All the Japanese I spoke to in Paris were really nice people.
I’m half-Polish, and my grandmother was hounded out of Poland by the Nazis, put on a train to Africa and kept there for years. My grandfather fought in the war for Poland.
But for goodness sakes. Like RD says, are all Germans now Nazis? No.
I find Germany to be a lovely country, and very much hope to live there when I’m older. I can pretty much speak German, and they are very apologetic for the war. They really don’t like even talking about it in a conversation. Does that make me a nazi?
You need to learn to move on.
p.s. Deep Impact lacked a prep race – that’s why he didn’t win.
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