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    Avatar photoFormath
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    3.30 Warwick<br>Leading Contender (Evens lost) – up 5lbs, 2nd of 14 -1.5 lengths, led, ridden, kept on same pace. Consistent and every chance on form. Stake 1 point lost, due 2, bank 183.84<br>Anglicisme (11/2) – up 2lbs, 5th of 10 -28 lengths, headway, ridden, weakened. Has some chance if staying the trip.<br>Supreme Cara (6/1 won) – same weight, 3rd of 7 -38 lengths, ridden, no chance, poor 3rd. Being tried over longer.

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    (Edited by Formath at 5:29 pm on Feb. 23, 2007)

    #62363
    dave jay
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    I know Artemis, but you asked what method was used by Formath to produce that rating and that was it .. or am I all mixed up ?

    .. sorry for banjaxing your thread here formath .. :cool:

    #62364
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    Sorry,Dave,

    You were only answering my query and made no comment about the merit of the method. I have a habit of adding comments if I think they might be helpful or take the discussion forward. We’ll leave Formath to carry on his interesting thread.

    #62365
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    posted my scatter gun selections last saturday 10 selections 6 winners not a bad start kept to the 10 race i picked earlier in the week hope to better it tomorrow but it seems to be a lot harder this week maybe trying to make a system out of a method dont know,by using the list of proability in pro,s and con,s with the star method in the close encounters of vdw kind and consistencey 1 and 2 when these converge or almost yhis is my selection hope to post them tomorrow

    #62366
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    with areyoutalkintome,brave vision,lucifer blue,natal,and magic glade passing the mechanical part of the method classic capers,blue splash squeezing in party boss suspect on distance and fast forward,and gustavo add on to keep the line going it maybe only 5 this week,like the look of brave vision today

    #62367
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    2.35 Kempton<br>Good Spirit (7/2 2nd) – down 1lb, won 1st of 7 +6 lengths, made all, mistake, clear, easily. A striking win but has to get this trip. Stake 2 points lost, due 5, bank 181.87<br>Ursis (9/2 3rd) – up 7lbs, won 1st of 4 chased +.75 of a length, led, hit 2 out, driven out. Trip may not suit.<br>Natal (5/2 won) – down 2lbs, 4th of 5 -14 lengths, not fluent, ridden, beaten, blundered last. Not proven on forecast going.

    Kempton 3.10<br>Lucifer Bleu (15/8 lost) – down 12lbs, won 1st of 8 +11 lengths, made all, clear, mistake, eased considerably. If OK at the D should be hard to beat. Stake 3 points lost, due 9, bank 178.87<br>Lacdoudal (8/1 3rd) – same weight, 4th of 7 -27 lengths, headway, ridden, weakened. has chance if staying trip.<br>Limerick Bay (5/1) – down 2lbs, won 1st of 5 +6 lengths, mistakes, led, clear, stayed on well. Capable of a bold show.<br>Simon (11/2 won) – up 3lbs, won 1st of 10 +9 lengths, headway, blundered, stayed on well. More required here.

    (Edited by Formath at 4:38 pm on Feb. 24, 2007)

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    3.50 Exeter<br>Zimbabwe (15/8 lost) – up 8lbs, won 1st of 10 +nk, led, headed, led last, driven out. Pressure on at this level. Stake 4 points lost, due 14, bank 174.37<br>Howrwenow (9/4 won) – down 1lb, won 1st of 8 +16 lengths, always going well, led, clear, easily. Sound jumper and interesting hcap newcomer.<br>Charlies Future (3/1 2nd) – same weight, 2nd of 10 -7 lengths (penultimate race), led, prominent, ridden, chased, no impression. Could be give another chance.

    (Edited by Formath at 3:20 pm on Feb. 25, 2007)<br>

    (Edited by Formath at 4:26 pm on Feb. 25, 2007)

    #62369
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    not a great weekend only 3 from 10 so time for some temprament i think

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    3.30 Hereford<br>Evelith Forrest (15/8 lost) – up 8lbs,2nd of 6 -3 lengths, shaken up, no impression, ridden ,one-paced. Hcap OK and D no problem. Stake 5pts lost, due 20, bank 169.37

    Negus De Beaumont (9/2 won) – up 3lbs, prominent, pushed aong, lost place. A hard ride dropped in class.<br>Jug Of Punch (8/1) – up 21lbs? 4th of 10 -3 lengths, chased, every chance, stayed on same pace. Vulnerable here.

    (Edited by Formath at 6:40 pm on Feb. 26, 2007)

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    3.10 Catterick<br>Aviation (13/2 lost) – up 6lbs, won 1st of 6 +.5 of a length, led, stayed on, held on well. Bold bid likely. Stake 6 pts lost, due 27, bank 163.37

    The Nomad (10/1) – down 6lbs, 2nd of 9 -.5 of a length (penultimate race), left in lead, driven, held, kept on. Questions to answer.<br>Cumbrian Knight (17/2) – up 7lbs, 2nd of 14 -3.5 lengths, headway to chase, kept on to take 2nd. Going may not suit.

    (Edited by Formath at 4:41 pm on Feb. 27, 2007)

    #62372
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    Boy! Am I struggling lol.

    4.00 Southwell<br>Hollywood George (4/1 lost) – down 11lbs,2nd of 7 -hd, prominent, badly hampered, ran on. Unproven on this surface. Stake 7pts lost, due 35, bank 156.37

    Regal Parade (7/4 won) – up 1lb, won 1st of 10 +nk, ran green, headway, led, driven out. Could follow up.<br>Eau Good (11/2 2nd) – up 5lbs, 2nd of 5 -3.5 lengths, ridden, wandered, kept on. Appears vulnerable

    (Edited by Formath at 6:23 pm on Feb. 28, 2007)

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    Ludlow 3.10<br>Pearly Star (5/2 lost) – up 7lbs, won 1st of 15 +nk, ridden, rallied, stayed on well. Improved lately and headgear could be a plus. Stake 8pts lost, due 44, bank 148.37<br>So Cloudy (7/1) – up 1lb, won 1st of 13 +4 lengths, headway, led, blundered, shaken up, ridden clear. Should go well.<br>Basic Fact (10/3) – up 15lbs? 2nd of 10 -1.75 lengths, ridden, every chance, no extra. One to consider

    (Edited by Formath at 5:59 pm on Mar. 1, 2007)

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    3.40 Newbury<br>The Luder (5/2 lost) – up 3lbs, 2nd of 4 -3 lengths, driven, headed, not pace of winner. Was a good class hurdler. Blinkers left off. Stake 9pts lost, due 55, bank 139.37<br>Go For One (3/1) – up 10lbs? 2nd of 8 -2 lengths, prominent, headed, left in lead, kept on, always held.

    (I intend to put this thread into suspended animation as it is going nowhere fast, whilst the bank is still almost 20pts to the good).

    (Edited by Formath at 5:24 pm on Mar. 2, 2007)

    #62375
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    Just when the kitchen was getting hot. The next bet might have cleared off most of what is ‘due’. After all, your bank(120pts) is still intact, so why stop now?

    Seriously, though, winner finding is very hard at this time of year. Perhaps you might return when the flat settles down a bit. i think your approach could do very well then.

    #62376
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    I have opened this thread again as it is much closer to where I have evolved in 56 years of racing. It is more a disciplined method than a system really to be truthful. This time I will back more than one runner at my price to return 100 points a race, meaning some days it will be less and others we will skin the book, hopefully lol.

    3.00 Southwell Mar 25<br>Scored<br>11 Lankawi (8/11 won) , won 1st of 8 +1.25 lengths, tracked lead, led, idled, driven out. Improver capable of a bold bid. Minimum odds required 6/4. No bet<br>9 Chief Yeoman (non-runner) , won 1st of 7 +3 lengths (penultimate race), pressed, slight lead, clear, driven out. Obvious chance on form.

    Others<br>5 Pay Attention<br>4 A Toi A Moi<br>3 Lord Gunnerslake

    (Edited by Formath at 6:44 pm on Mar. 25, 2007)

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    4.00 Stratford Mar 26

    Rated<br>12 Englishtown (3/1 lost) – won 1st of 10 +.75 of a length (penultimate race), jumped left, blundered, challenging left clear, driven out. Concerns about jumping? Minimum odds required 11/4. Stake 27pts lost

    8 Liverpool Echo (9/1 won) – 5th of 10 -35 lengths, blundered, always behind. Not running well? Minimum odds required 5/1. Stake 17pts = return 170pts

    6 Sha Bihan (10/3 lost) – 2nd of 5 -1.75 lengths, slight lead, headed, pressed, kept on same pace. Bold bid expected. Minimum odds required 7/1. No bet

    6 Fill The Bunker (9/4 lost) – 2nd of 10 -5 lengths, led, ridden, headed, one-paced. Bold show likely. Minimum odds required 7/1. No bet

    Result = return 170 – 44 staked = +126

    Others<br>5 Tanterari<br>5 Elvis Returns<br>3 Malko De Beaumont<br>3 Jaoka Du Gord<br>2 Marked Man

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    (Edited by Formath at 5:24 pm on Mar. 26, 2007)

    #62378
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    Mar 27

    Owing to the low grade of the 3 cards available today there isn’t a race worth assessing for betting IMO.

    There is always tomorrow.

    (Edited by Formath at 12:25 pm on Mar. 27, 2007)

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