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Barry Geraghty – Foolish with Simonsig?

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    GingertipsterGingertipster
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    Am usually a fan of Batty’s. But he still thinks Simonsig will be better off going for the Neptune. I know I am biased, having already backed him for the Supreme (and Fingal Bay for the Neptune come to that)…

    But he travelled so well today at 2m2f and outstayed by Fingal Bay at Ascot 2m4f having again travelled well and looked the winner two out. Shows plenty of speed and 2 miles is surely the way to go? Particularly as the Neptune looks a much better quality race at the moment.

    I was also surprised Geraghty did not kick on, instead of winning hard held. Teach the horse something Barry! There’s a real chance (whatever race Simonsig goes for at Cheltenham) he’ll get the Meade/Carberry disease. Cruising to the front but not knowing what to do once under presure up the hill.

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    Am usually a fan of Batty’s. But he still thinks Simonsig will be better off going for the Neptune. I know I am biased, having already backed him for the Supreme (and Fingal Bay for the Neptune come to that)…

    But he travelled so well today at 2m2f and outstayed by Fingal Bay at Ascot 2m4f having again travelled well and looked the winner two out. Shows plenty of speed and 2 miles is surely the way to go? Particularly as the Neptune looks a much better quality race at the moment.

    I was also surprised Geraghty did not kick on, instead of winning hard held. Teach the horse something Barry! There’s a real chance (whatever race Simonsig goes for at Cheltenham) he’ll get the Meade/Carberry disease. Cruising to the front but not knowing what to do once under presure up the hill.

    Agreed – they can’t have learnt much today. To do that, he should have asked the horse after the last to see how he quickened after 2 miles.

    I’m sure earlier in the season they were thinking about the Supreme. Maybe they have fewer options for the Neptune.

    I find it strange that he ran in this race at all, considering the other options since his last run

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    cormack15cormack15
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    Henderson was saying after the race that they hadn’t learnt a lot. He also made precisely your point GT regarding the likelihood that the Neptune will be a much hotter heat.

    Knockara Beau is rated 145 and loves Kelso so to beat him virtually on the bridle was a fair effort.

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    GingertipsterGingertipster
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    I don’t think he beat much today Corm. Knockara Beau might be rated 145, but he needs further to show that rating.

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    GingertipsterGingertipster
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    I’m sure earlier in the season they were thinking about the Supreme. Maybe they have fewer options for the Neptune.

    I find it strange that he ran in this race at all, considering the other options since his last run

    I was surprised they didn’t go for a 2 miler too Mark.

    I believe at the beginning of the season they were hoping for the Albert Bartlett, as the owners sponser the event.

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    CheltenhamSpecialistCheltenhamSpecialist
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    To me he jumped like a chaser running over hurdles today.
    He might get away with that in The Neptune but not TheSupreme.
    Even so, in the absence of Boston Bob he still looks my most likely Neptune selection

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    I was also surprised Geraghty did not kick on, instead of winning hard held. Teach the horse something Barry! There’s a real chance (whatever race Simonsig goes for at Cheltenham) he’ll get the Meade/Carberry disease. Cruising to the front but not knowing what to do once under presure up the hill.

    Agreed, my mind flashed back to Harchibald as he came up the run-in.

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    Genuinely stumped about this horse. If you take Fingal Bay out of the Sandown contest, and imagine he went straight to the Challow and won an idling length and add in what Simonsig did today, he’d (simonsig) probably be a 3/1 shot for the Neptune. Especially with Barbatos franking the form.

    But Fingal Bay did take part, and won impressively. I don’t think Simonsig looked a non-stayer, and the distance back to the others hardly enhances that belief. Fingal Bay could be a freak of a horse that just needs constant company, but I don’t know.

    I just can’t picture Simonsig kicking clear over two miles. Gut feeling.

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    Genuinely stumped about this horse. If you take Fingal Bay out of the Sandown contest, and imagine he went straight to the Challow and won an idling length and add in what Simonsig did today, he’d (simonsig) probably be a 3/1 shot for the Neptune. Especially with Barbatos franking the form.

    But Fingal Bay did take part, and won impressively. I don’t think Simonsig looked a non-stayer, and the distance back to the others hardly enhances that belief. Fingal Bay could be a freak of a horse that just needs constant company, but I don’t know.

    I just can’t picture Simonsig kicking clear over two miles. Gut feeling.

    Limestone Lad!!!! None of them could have lived with your namesake! He must have had Kevlar in his DNA. They broke the mould the day he was foaled!

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    The Young FellaThe Young Fella
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    Simonsig going for the Neptune hints Henderson and Gerraghty think they already have the Supreme covered… :wink:

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    It was a strange approach, but one that showed talent, speed and optimism. He did, I agree, jump like a chaser, but the Supreme looks poor and today he looked streets ahead of anything we’ve seen prior. The fact he ran 2 mile 2 hard held basically proves is proof was needed that the hill will be right up his street.

    Agreed there are questions to be asked after today, but more importantly, I’d say there were a lot more questions answered. Classy horse in my opinion.

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    BosranicBosranic
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    Visually impressive, but for all intents and purposes he beat a staying chaser. It should be noted that he won the Fairyhouse P2P Bumper last season, won in previous years by the likes of Pandorama and Last Instalment.

    Personally, I look forward to seeing him jump a fence. Early days, but I think he has all the physical attributes to make a top, top class chaser over two miles-five, plus. Clearly the big grey also has an engine.

    Don’t think he’ll win either race, but will certainly run with credit wherever he goes.

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    Future King George horse in my opinion.

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