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What you have mentioned I would class as subtle forms of cheating, as the the rules of racing leaves the authorities virtually powerless to do anything about it, unless racing can change the goalposts [which I don’t think they really can] the Curleys Wighams Prescott & Martins will continue to prosper in their underhand ways.
Personaly I never back a Curley horse as I don’t have time to hang around a betting shop to wait and see if his horse drifts like a barge or is backed off the boards, as you said Curley only backs them just before the off time, yes most of the time his gambles come off, I am a morning price punter so I just avoid any race Curley has a runner in. Personaly I get great enjoyment when one of Curleys gambles comes unstuck.I read his autobiography, "Giving A Little Back" some years ago. Love him or loathe him, Curley is certainly an interesting character. He’s a loner and a maverick who shoots from the hip and who doesn’t suffer fools gladly – that is why many people throughout racing establishment despise him. He ruffles a few feathers (which is no bad thing, in my eyes) and his memorable dressing down of McCririck and Luke Harvey was pure television gold.
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Why would anyone want to bet on premiership football when this great sport of ours offers such "characters" such as Barney Curley stiffing the punters?
I read his autobiography, "Giving A Little Back" some years ago. Love him or loathe him, Curley is certainly an interesting character. He’s a loner and a maverick who shoots from the hip and who doesn’t suffer fools gladly – that is why many people throughout racing establishment despise him. He ruffles a few feathers (which is no bad thing, in my eyes) and his memorable dressing down of McCririck and Luke Harvey was pure television gold.
Have to disagree with you, I thought Curley made a complete and utter fool of himself, he was stuttering and fumbling while he was ranting away, while Mc Cririck kept his cool and let Curley embarress himself.
It was certainly good tv though !The Curley runner today had beaten one horse home in 3 previous starts.
Those not in the know were left to ponder whether it simply had no ability or had been run over too short a trip.
In the event the horse sluiced up as a heavily backed favourite.
Apologists will say Curley did not different to Prescott but to non insiders racing was simply brought into disrepute.
The easy way forward is to boycott betting in all races where he has a runner.The Curley runner today had beaten one horse home in 3 previous starts.
Those not in the know were left to ponder whether it simply had no ability or had been run over too short a trip.
In the event the horse sluiced up as a heavily backed favourite.
Apologists will say Curley did not different to Prescott but to non insiders racing was simply brought into disrepute.
The easy way forward is to boycott betting in all races where he has a runner.Ditto Lingfield !
The Curley runner today had beaten one horse home in 3 previous starts.
Those not in the know were left to ponder whether it simply had no ability or had been run over too short a trip.
In the event the horse sluiced up as a heavily backed favourite.
Apologists will say Curley did not different to Prescott but to non insiders racing was simply brought into disrepute.
The easy way forward is to boycott betting in all races where he has a runner.Why boycott betting in all races where he has a runner?
In fact I couldn’t disagree more and I would advise on doing the complete opposite because in the main (not always) the betting patterns will tell you how his horses will perform – this giving you a massive advantage that you don’t normally get.
Undoubtedly his horse was running over the wrong trip on it’s first 3 runs, but that was to get a handicap mark inorder to land a massive punt. With 5 minutes to the off time, everyone could see what was happening and should have plunged on the horse – not boycott it.
Mike
I remember this horses debut at Warwick where it looked fat as a pig in the preliminaries and didn’t look like it had ever seen the outside of its stable before, never mind a racecourse.
He has done a series of podcasts on Youtube too http://www.youtube.com/user/123dafa123
british racing would’nt be the same without owners and trainers who plot horses up, instead we would have the same drivel as that american rubbish they churn out on atr.
can never understand why some poeple when they think they’ve seen a bit of a non buzzer the first thing they do is to e-mail attheraces and complain, intstead of keeping thier mouth shut, hope no one else as seen it, then lump the thing next time.
just listened to the barney curley thing on utube, fantastic, long may these poeple stay in racing.There’s more to the sport than betting and trying to make money. Being able to pull the wool over the eyes of the authorities and/or bookies and/or other punters is nothing to be applauded for, IMO. What Barney does is no different to diving in football.
Should also add that there is more to life than making money and it says a lot about your opinion on life and honesty in general if you "appreciate" what Barney Curley does
Barney sees racing for what it is and plays the game for what it is .. I like honest people and he doesn’t say that racing isn’t bent, he just proves that it is and then tells everyone. I don’t see any hypocracy in that.
british racing would’nt be the same without owners and trainers who plot horses up, instead we would have the same drivel as that american rubbish they churn out on atr.
Er…
$5 tops to get in. A tenner for the Triple Crown events. Beer for a dollar. Ten races a card. Cheap food. Huge banks of simulcasting screens. Friendly locals. Professional punters employed by tracks to help customers. Strict stewards. Good prize money encouraging the smaller owner. A wider social strata of ownership due to said prize money. Cheaper training fees. Trainers who enjoy the craic with punters. Seats. Carrels with personal TVs. Races run with a relatively level playing field on tracks that ride fair. Relatively consistent form over time. And in Del Mar…beach parties with bikini clad blondes after the nightcap.
Total pile of s**t, US racing. Innit. Much rather be at Ripon.
Hello,
I remember a guy called Reg Akehurst, the Handicap King, who excelled at "practices" that Barney gets up to
He did it for years, and in no way hid the fact he ran many a horse up the field for numerous races’, until the price was right and a horse with form such as:
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would come out and win by 5 lengths, @ a handsome 33/1
He didn’t do this once or twice he did it for 20 years!!
Therefore the stories he bestowed upon the stewards regarding the horses improvement worked time and time again.
I would love to see transcripts of a couple!!!
Thius day and age, would the guy be considered a cheat..
regards,
doyley
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Hello,
I remember a guy called Reg Akehurst, the Handicap King, who excelled at “practices” that Barney gets up to
He did it for years, and in no way hid the fact he ran many a horse up the field for numerous races’, until the price was right and a horse with form such as:
000000
would come out and win by 5 lengths, @ a handsome 33/1
He didn’t do this once or twice he did it for 20 years!!
Therefore the stories he bestowed upon the stewards regarding the horses improvement worked time and time again.
I would love to see transcripts of a couple!!! Thius day and age, would the guy be considered a cheat..
Doyley
It still happens – every racing day – and such as Barney and Sir Mark ought to be applauded rather than pilloried, as they are among the most honest about it.
When it comes down to real integrity, these guys have bucket-loads, unfortunately integrity in this industry is ruled upon by far more devious souls.[/b]british racing would’nt be the same without owners and trainers who plot horses up, instead we would have the same drivel as that american rubbish they churn out on atr.
Er…
$5 tops to get in. A tenner for the Triple Crown events. Beer for a dollar. Ten races a card. Cheap food. Huge banks of simulcasting screens. Friendly locals. Professional punters employed by tracks to help customers. Strict stewards. Good prize money encouraging the smaller owner. A wider social strata of ownership due to said prize money. Cheaper training fees. Trainers who enjoy the craic with punters. Seats. Carrels with personal TVs. Races run with a relatively level playing field on tracks that ride fair. Relatively consistent form over time. And in Del Mar…beach parties with bikini clad blondes after the nightcap.
Total pile of s**t, US racing. Innit. Much rather be at Ripon.
You obviously haven’t been to Philadelphia Park then
I was there 3 years ago – $5 for a hot dog, equivelant to around £3 then, that is not cheap. $4 for a hot drink, equivelant to around £2.30 then, that is not cheap. Very UNfriendly locals, terrible racing, in fact a card full of $5,000 & £10,000 claimers, with not one horse out of the 80 or so running on the day having ever won back to back races. Some of the worst jockeymanship I have ever seen, not one trainer mixing with the public that I saw. So me of the worst toilet areas I have ever seen, and the poorest disabled access to a racecourse I have seen in any country bar none.
Yes admitedly that is my only experience of US Racing, but if I had to go on that experience then US Racing is a pile of s**t.
Mike
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