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Was interested to read the RP analysis of the race but there is nothing. Analysis of the first 4 races on the card then nothing for the 6:55 or the two races after that. An oversight, presumably.
Was that in the paper Aranalde? They don’t normally publish the late races in the following days paper. I assume you’re reading the website though in which case that is strange.
Ballydoyle land touches all the time. Just not at silly prices as the likes of Mr Curley do. But its easier to generate a lot of money when your gambling with large amounts and have the best talent at your disposal.
Yes it was the online version. I was just curious to see how they’d phrase their analysis.
Must admit, i do struggle to understand what the motivation for any chicanery would be, certainly from within Ballydoyle anyway. Despite the past alledged gambling records of some, it doesnt make sense for the relatively insiginificant sums to be gained
The horse was heavily backed from around 8/15 to 2/7. Believe me, some serious people would have been on and defeat was simply out of the question.
Just because the trainer, owner and connections of the horse might not be short of a bob or too, it didn’t mean that their friends, families or associates didn’t need the money!
*friends, families or associates = the people the trainer, owner or connections told the horse wouldn’t get beat!
Hefferman is a great jockey, and knows how to put a horses nose in front – this horse was cantering all over the favourite a furlong out – yet the complete lack of effort to attempt to win leaves a shocking taste in my mouth. It was absolutely appalling, and as another forumite has said – if people want to defend this then it’s a load of shyte!
Mike
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Believe me, some serious people would have been on and defeat was simply out of the question.Mike
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Why should we???
The above is just your opinion; unless you can back it up with either facts or some sound logic, neither of which seem to be your strong point.
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Why should we???
The above is just your opinion; unless you can back it up with either facts or some sound logic, neither of which seem to be your strong point.Some sound logic – the horse was backed from 8/15 to 2/7 – am I missing something here, or does that sound like a lot of money or not. And in my opinion, people putting lots of money on a very short priced fav would probably have been serious punters
And please may you tell me to what you are referring to when you say ‘neither of which seem to be your strong point’. Or are you just being a tit?
And this coming from a guy who thinks that jockey was just being over confident
. Open your eyes for crying out loud.Mike
"MikkyMo73":3i1kj8yi wrote:
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Why should we???
The above is just your opinion; unless you can back it up with either facts or some sound logic, neither of which seem to be your strong point.Some sound logic – the horse was backed from 8/15 to 2/7 – am I missing something here, or does that sound like a lot of money or not. And in my opinion, people putting lots of money on a very short priced fav would probably have been serious punters
And please may you tell me to what you are referring to when you say ‘neither of which seem to be your strong point’. Or are you just being a tit?
And this coming from a guy who thinks that jockey was just being over confident
. Open your eyes for crying out loud.Mike
Ditto Micky,
Seems Reet was on at 1/2, which explains his defensive stance.Hefferman is a great jockey, and knows how to put a horses nose in front – this horse was cantering all over the favourite a furlong out – yet the complete lack of effort to attempt to win leaves a shocking taste in my mouth. It was absolutely appalling, and as another forumite has said – if people want to defend this then it’s a load of shyte!
Mike
Mike, I agree. I saw the final two furlongs of the race on Sky Sports News this morning and couldn’t believe what I was watching. Shocking.
I doubt there will even be an investigation into the ‘Coolmore Mafia’.
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Yep, there sure was!
The man who almost bought Man United was probably desperate for the couple of grand this massive gamble would have netted him.
For God’s sake?Reet
Substitute "The man who almost bought Man United" with "staff, friends and family" and you’ll probably be right on the money.
Yep, there sure was!
The man who almost bought Man United was probably desperate for the couple of grand this massive gamble would have netted him.
For God’s sake?Reet, you’re right, what I said earlier was just my opinion. But whatever the reasons, Hefferman did not win on a horse that he should have won on, and for anyone to defend what happened or say the jockey was over confident is talking utter rubbish – and that’s my opinion also, and I am sorry if my opinion offends anyone becuase that is never my intention.
Mike
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i’ve been backing horses for 25 years and have seen many a non trier, but what happened the other night is the most obvious piece of stopping a horse from winning you’ll ever see. i’m getting more and more convinced that a big majority of races run in ireland are not run true.
i did’nt watch the c4 morning line tis morning but was anything said on there?Reet, I can’t believe your being so naive. If you think they don’t bet just cos they’ve already got "loads of money" then you need to have a little chat wih yourself. For once I agree with the madman!
For what its worth, speaking to someone over the weekend, Heffernan’s horse broke blood vessels which was noted when scoped after the race.
For what its worth, speaking to someone over the weekend, Heffernan’s horse broke blood vessels which was noted when scoped after the race.
As you rightly say "noted when scoped AFTER the race" – and therefore had no reflection whatsoever on the way Hefferman rode the horse TO LOSE.
Mike
ps: I must add, that the above is just my opinion
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Reet, I can’t believe your being so naive. If you think they don’t bet just cos they’ve already got "loads of money" then you need to have a little chat wih yourself. For once I agree with the madman!
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I’m fairly certain they do bet, though not to win the piddling amounts this would have involved.
I’m also reasonably sure they wouldn’t expect a stable stalwart to put his career on the line in such a mickey-mouse race either.
. Open your eyes for crying out loud.
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