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  • #2823
    cubone
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    Im sorry I have been missing a travelling man of late.

    Can someone tell me how <br>An Exchange Auction could work I fail to see how it could do.

    Ebay for a dozen Oysters yes.

    But watching a Price in an auction does not appeal to me what say you.

    Cubone

    #74532
    Alderbrook
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    I am a man who is not keeping up with the news.  What’s going on Don?

    #74533
    cubone
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    naw! nothing much did my geniology in 2004 and the nearest to the Queen was a Grand Dad who carried the Brigade of Guards flag in front of her great grand mother. Victoria, and the son of a rent collecter who got stuck up a chimney in Old Kent Road.

    Woke up in 2005 and found ourselves sitting next to senior Dukes.and Ducheses,

    Bar for that nothing has happened.:biggrin:

    <br>

    #74534
    Purwell
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    This thread reminds me of the Personal column that used to be on the front page of The Times. It must mean something to somebody!:cool:

    #74535
    cubone
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    Purwell. thank you for the responce may I give you a tip.

    Looking at your Icon I can see that you sun bath a lot and smoke heavily.

    My advise lighten up and use sun blocker.and a filter.

    Cubone

    #74536
    Wallace
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    The game is gone for hard working earners, nipping the tissue in the morning and going to work the Away’s at the end of the line and putting them on the book cheaper.

    There was nowt wrong with the spike, tripod,mush and hod either.  

    Who needs computers and an army of layers?

    Who knows the price of fish?

    (Edited by Wallace at 5:55 pm on Aug. 2, 2006)

    #74537
    cubone
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    Wallace..just look at the game now the changes were there to offer the public an unbeatable and improved service.

    The new boards displayed terms and computor print outs.

    What do we have now ,

    No gauranteed wagers no Each Way terms no Civility and Prompt payement. just a load of whispering computors trading for coppers.

    The equipment is starting to look stale.

    No more than a handfull of runners that would get a rating by Taylor and Cutter except in the Sports Attire Floor,

    No personalities, and every one of them over weight.

    90% of the staff lucky to get a worth while wage certainly not enough to start a family.

    My Heart Bleeds for the real genuine Racecourse Bookmakers being smothered by commission Agents.

    Cubone:( :(

    #74538
    Wallace
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    Harry Millar, Tommy Marshall, Dan Flynn and silver ring king Joe McKenna all no more or anyone remotely like them in the game anymore.

    The Away guys with the sharp suits and well cut shirts and a good card were the real earners :)

    #74539
    cubone
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    Wallace there sons are on the exchanges now. just as smart.

    Cubone

    #74540
    cubone
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    During the last 100 years Bookmakers like<br>Willie Preston,Jack Burns, Percy Thompson,Hector Macdonald,and scores of Scots ruled the rings the didnt need a computor to tell them what % they were betting to in the 43 runner national.<br>And we mustnt forget William Hill from Birmingham.

    Cubone<br>Cubone

    #74541
    Drone
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    What’s Leslie Steele upto these days?

    Been missing from the northern tracks for around two years now.

    LR Steele, Leeds. Always a board to keep a beady on.

    #74542
    cubone
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    Drone

    The Great Leslie Steel would be in his late 70s early 89s.now and sold all his pitches about 2 years ago.

    <br>Leslie was a Bevan Boy. aged 18  he was placed down the Coal; mines instead of into the war zone he then decided to become a racecourse Bookmaker and arrived during the latter Gang Warfares not only was he very brave he was also very shrewed.

    Did not worry about finding private layers to help him trade to affect.

    He also was a very good "Arm around you" this skill was the art of being the bigest Bookmaker in a ring and controlling the large punters by placing his arm arround the punter and saying right now how much do you want on…

    As soon as the punter declared his hand Leslies staff the best in the game had already started to put on.

    Leslie would then say right you want £30,000 on now I can lay you £20.000 at 5/2 and the other £10k at 2/1

    "Having already taken all the 3/1 available.

    Very Shrewed,indead had a very bad car accident and was thought to be dead in the 70s.

    Cubone<br>

    #74543
    Wallace
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    What about John Joyce?  I remember him being a great worker at place like Carlisle and Newcastle when I was a boy.

    In more recent times surely the Bob Kett team were one of the best organised outfits?

    Also, remember having a squint at Ted Sturmans book one day at Ascot.  There were more rings in it than in a  ring shop!

    #74544
    Drone
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    Thanks Cubone, interesting tale. His pronouced limp is presumably a result of the accident you mention.

    Always had the – apparently mistaken – idea he was John Steele’s son who I believe was a well-known layer way back whenever.

    Last time I saw him was the Ebor meeting a couple of years ago, chattering away with Barney C and Mick Fletcher.

    A Gent

    #74545
    cubone
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    Wallace you named 2 greats from the past and a very good grafting team. Bob was a loverly person and his biy seems a lovely lad also Ive had many a night out with Bob and coulnt he drink. an international boozer wasnt he a Taxie Driver before his Bookmaking .

    John Joyce a great northern Bookie, must have passed away by now.

    As for Ted Binns (Ted Sturman)he was a geniuse and the only Bookmaker I have ever seen bet in running from the ring.<br>I think his mother and father died early and he was shipped to a Birmingham Bookmaker who took him under there wing,  an uncle I think. a real figeurs man. was Ted.<br>I once worked for him in the late 50s and he was the first and only Bookmaker who gave you the power to hold hedging money at your discression.

    Example 99% of hedging Bookmakers tick tack instruction through to there workman on the rails and told to take the 5/2 but Ted used to show a sighn unique to him

    £500 at 5/2 HOLD.

    That ment only put it on if the price starts to go. that must have given him a tremendious hedge over the other Bookmakers.

    He also loved a BIRD and he and Nevill Berrie were out on there own staying overnight and playing it up.

    Great times and many stories to tell.

    Cubone

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