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- September 18, 2019 at 17:10 #1457830
https://www.scotsman.com/news/obituaries/obituary-toby-balding-obe-racehorse-trainer-1-3554585
His breakthrough win came with the valuable Portland Handicap in 1959 won by New World. He landed a spectacular gamble that day which helped him finance his wedding to Carolyn Anne Barclay. Theirs was to be a long and happy marriage, with Caro, as she was known, becoming what Balding himself described as the “lynchpin” of his extensive training operation which he set up at Fyfield.
This family has a gamble for every occasion
The Baldings Racing Betting Mafia Family

Do they bet

You do realise that Balding has beem telling porkies to the media all season long with THE DON. He has been sent off in single figure odds in 4 of his 5 races this season thanks to Baldings ‘big chance,in form, media comments. Always making sure to tell us how he ‘NEEDS’ testing ground.
They will be landing a right touch with THE DON im the gold cup. This is a long term planned military operation.
You probably think these trainers are your friends who are just really kind people who love to help total strangers land gambles

NEVER TRUST A POLITICIAN
NEVER TRUST A RACEHORSE TRAINER
September 18, 2019 at 17:33 #1457845Ok , you’re right about Balding but I still think not all are betting stables.
You've got to accentuate the positive.
Eliminate the negative.
Latch on to the affirmative.
Don't mess with mister in between.September 18, 2019 at 18:06 #1457847If you work in a sweetshop you get free sweets.
If you work in a pub you get free drinks.
If you train racehorses you name your own price on the horse you lined up for a gamble by talking drivel to the media.
A trainer that doesnt bet is the equivalent of a vicar who is an atheist, a butcher who is vegetarian, a pub landlord who doesnt drink etc etc
All could exist but you will have to search very hard to find one.
September 19, 2019 at 09:53 #1458969I’m in agreement with a couple on here that Summerghand has every
chance here and 12/1 is still reasonable, well done to those snapping up
the 16s. My only concern about him is that is he going to be one of those unlucky
horses who should win but always find trouble. I could have made a case for him in
his last half dozen runs, and I was on in the Stewards Cup when Ryan Moore perhaps
found more trouble than he needed to, so I hope he’s not going to be a frustrating
type. On a more positive note, even though he runs off his highest mark, I still
think he’s well in. If he does get the breaks he would have to go close.I’m going double handed with Laugh A Minute, who I bagged, along with Summerghand,
at 25/1 in the early hours. I’m just waiting to see if they both make the
final decs in half an hour. He’s been running well in some decent races without
getting his head in front recently and has dropped down to a decent mark. If he
can be excused his last run in the Scottish Steward’s Cup, where it may have
been just too soft for him, I think the course and ground will suit him well.
Atzeni is more often than not jocked up on him, he has some big rides at Newbury
on Saturday, but I’m more than happy to have young Rossa Ryan on him.It’s a wide open race as usual, good luck whichever way you go
September 19, 2019 at 11:21 #1458973HUge mistake by Balding not to run THE DON but at least he was honest on this occasion and did what he said.
September 19, 2019 at 17:22 #1458989As Urban Beat is not running have added another early bet on HEY JONESY at 25/1 ! Ran well in the Commonwealth Cup last year and has ran okay a couple of times this year and has had a break and hopefully Kevin Ryan will have him primed for this!
September 19, 2019 at 21:04 #1459017GROWL ew 25/1 5 places
He first ran in this race in 2016 amd was sent off 4/1 fav off 101 from stall 6 on gd/sft He almost landed the gamble and was 2nd to Brando.
He was 10th behind THE DON when the race was ran at haydock in 2017 carrying top weight from a mark of 109 on heavy ground.
Sent off just 8/1 for the 2018 gold cup he again had to deal with heavy ground for the 2nd year running. He didnt enjoy it and was allowed to come home in his own time 21/25 from 99.
This season Growl has shown the ability still remains as a 7yo at times but has been cleverly campaigned. He dropped down to a mark of 89 which they knew
wouldnt get him in the race this year so they unleashed the beast at Ripon where he won on soft ground. He enters his 4th gold cup from his lowest gc mark on 95. He has almost certainly been ran with this race as his season target and now after 2 years of heavy ground following his near miss to Brando he finally gets ideal conditions.His best ever performance came in the 2016 champion stakes on good ground beating Brando into 3rd and only finding a peak 4yo the Tin Man too good.
Running off 95 and carrying a featherweight of 8-9, finally he gets a high draw and his time has surely come on Saturday.
Not been a 7yo winner since 1993 so we must be due one. Surely this is going to run a screamer. Fahey looking for his 3rd win in the race, Growl to make it 4th time lucky.
Loves the big field races.ITS GROWL TO MAKE THEM ALL HOWL
September 20, 2019 at 13:53 #1459036George bowen for me 28/1 atm, hoping to get 33/1 + !
September 20, 2019 at 15:21 #1459041I don’t think Growl will be winning potato. Reason is that I backed him at Ripon as he went down to a mark in the 80s and with give underfoot which he likes. Now on 95 on decent ground.
Richard Fahey echoes the ground sentiments in a preview of the horse’s chances tomorrow.
“Growl’s best form is definitely with some dig and he won at Ripon a couple of starts ago. We were happy with that performance and he’s in good order.”
September 20, 2019 at 15:31 #1459043Embour struck me as being a bit overpriced at 33’s and 25’s for 7 places with SkyBet, slowly away in the Portland and staying on nicely, wasn’t far behind Arecibo yet he’s a much bigger price. Should enjoy the ground and a fast pace to aim at.
I don’t think there’s much between Major Jumbo and Hey Jonesy on ability and while Major Jumbo’s been consistent this season and hasn’t got any slack from the handicapper, Hey Jonesy has slipped a bit and gets 5lb from his stablemate. He’s had a little break as raymo pointed out and he’s first time visor which could help. 25’s seems fair to me. There’s a good amount of pace across the field but a really key pocket of it could be drawn low – Justanotherbottle and Soliders Minute are next door in 2 & 3 and this fella isn’t far away in 8. Could be a key dual.
FWIW Arecibo is the one I fear most being a course winner and gets to race off his old mark of 98 when he went close in Portland off 100 but what put me off was even though he has won over 6F in France I thought he had every chance in the Portland and didn’t see his effort through off a well run 5.5F, I can’t see the extra half furlong being a help in that sense unless they hold onto him longer.
September 20, 2019 at 20:22 #1459143Had to add a third one cos skybet going seven places and BARBILL at 33/1 looks like he has a squeak having run well without threatening a few times this year in probably better races. Beaten three and a half lengths by wlafdpad and four and a half lengths by Khaadem both of which read like good form to me and could be where the pace is drawn six
September 20, 2019 at 21:37 #14591506/1 for the favourite is a decent price for me. The draw might be a concern but I’m not worried about the quick turnaround. I know Mr. Lyons would love to win this race after getting so close in 2007 so I don’t feel he’s just been thrown in here. I think this was the plan but only if he did show himself to be in top form (which he has).
Pob lwc!
September 20, 2019 at 22:25 #1459156Buffer Zone
Laugh A Minute
Good luck all
September 21, 2019 at 06:00 #1459173Already on Summerghand & Mr Lupton as my Ante post selections suggests so added Buffer Zone & Major Jumbo in combined forecast & Tricast.
You've got to accentuate the positive.
Eliminate the negative.
Latch on to the affirmative.
Don't mess with mister in between.September 21, 2019 at 07:59 #1459177
Richard Fahey echoes the ground sentiments in a preview of the horse’s chances tomorrow.“Growl’s best form is definitely with some dig and he won at Ripon a couple of starts ago. We were happy with that performance and he’s in good order.”
Did Richard Fahey tell the press that before or after his cartels bets got matched Mike?
Growls best form is definitely on good ground though he is fully effective on gd/frm as he is soft.
September 21, 2019 at 08:41 #1459180Potato agree with you there. Seems strange that he’d say that. Also found this from two different jockeys when he’s won with them riding.
25Jun16 Windsor (6Sft, RPR 105)
Growl travelled real nice and loved the ground. – David Nolan, rider
9Jun16 Nottingham (6GF, RPR 100)
Growl has been threatening to win for a while and Richard has got him in great order. I rode him at Chester and he went really well and was just a bit unlucky. He went well last time too and he’s just come into form now and he should improve for this again. He loved that firmer ground too – Paul Hanagan, jockey.Seems they all don’t agree on Growl’s ground preference. Don’t think fast ground can be used as a reason to sour his chances though!
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Hindsight is 20/20 so make the most of it!September 21, 2019 at 08:45 #1459182I’ve sided with Barbill at 33/1 and Intisaab at 14/1.
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