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    As a Scot I should, as a rule ( thus it is written in the stone of Scone :wink: ) be firmly and patriotically behind Andy Murray; yet for some reason I just cannot take to the guy. He’s like death warmed up, as we say in Scotland, and has the personality and charisma of a dead fish.

    He reminds me of all those lanky, non-vernacular speaking, and very boring sixth form prefects in secondary school who looked down their noses at everyone else.

    Give me little Winnie Shaw any day. :mrgreen:

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    "Himself":10cj5uzk wrote:
    He reminds me of all those lanky, non-vernacular speaking, and very boring sixth form prefects in secondary school who looked down their noses at everyone else.

    Yes, but being interesting is not a condition of success!

    That aside, Federer is in such dominant form that I’m not sure he could be beaten anyway, though Murray is not one to let that worry him.

    (quote)Give me little Winnie Shaw any day. :mrgreen:

    latterly Winnie Woolridge, I believe. Sadly died after a suffering a stroke whilst playing golf in 1991. She was a pretty decent golfer by all accounts, getting her handicap from 26 down to scratch in 10 years after retiring from tennis.

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    As a person Murray is not very appealing & lacks charisma, but as a tennis player he’s brilliant & we should should embrace him, especially being a scot &
    apart from snooker & cycling, there is not many sports
    that we have a top sportsman in.

    I still think Federer will win the Aussie Open & Murray won’t end the 74 years of famine in grand slams.

    Mark :)

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    Same old story. When it matters most Murray does not have the offensive game to trouble Federer. He is not even close.

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    Federer has just said that he played some of the best tennis of his life, Murray played well enough but how can anyone beat Federer if he’s just played the best tennis of his life? most say he’s the best tennis player that’s ever lived, if that is true then Murray can hold his head up high.

    Some people are just so unfair on Murray to what he has achieved in a short space of time. When he does eventually win a grand slam someone will come along and try o play it down.

    remember this , Murray has put all the other players also looking for grand slam wins in the shade.

    Well done Andy Murray your grand slam win is just around the corner!

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    The cold facts are Murray played well enough to be comfortably beaten in straight sets. Physically he also looked in far worse shape than Federer.

    He may win a Grand Slam – it is by no means certain – but chances are unless he develops a more offensive game he is going to fall short, particularly while Federer is still around.

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    Federer has just delivered what was expected. Murray still needs to improve, after all what has changed since September 2008? Nothing is the answer, and for that there is no reason to believe Murray can win a major.

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    Re: never overlook the obvious. :wink:

    Federer is simply different class.

    I thought Andy Murray played well and with a bit of luck he could have taken the third set. It would have become very interesting then, although I am confident the greatest player ever to play the game would have emerged triumphant.

    However, I am very disappointed at Federer’s pre-match comments.

    I thought he was above that sort of thing. Along with Usain Bolt, he is the one sportsman who does not need to resort to mind games.

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    Very good post that Himself.

    I like it when Andy does he Lion thing….

    #273396
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    Same old story. When it matters most Murray does not have the offensive game to trouble Federer. He is not even close.

    Bare in mind that Federer is the best player to ever have picked up a tennis racket & winner of an incredible sixteen grand slams.

    Mark :cry:

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    Re: never overlook the obvious. :wink:

    Federer is simply different class.

    I thought Andy Murray played well and with a bit of luck he could have taken the third set. It would have become very interesting then, although I am confident the greatest player ever to play the game would have emerged triumphant.

    However, I am very disappointed at Federer’s pre-match comments.

    I thought he was above that sort of thing. Along with Usain Bolt, he is the one sportsman who does not need to resort to mind games.

    My sentiments excactly. He is a fantastic player & has won a record amount of grand slams & has wealth beyond his means, so why try the old psychological thing.

    Federer is my favourite player & so being scottish, I wasn’t sure who to cheer on sunday morning.

    Mark :|

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    Same old story. When it matters most Murray does not have the offensive game to trouble Federer. He is not even close.

    Bare in mind that Federer is the best player to ever have picked up a tennis racket & winner of an incredible sixteen grand slams.

    Mark :cry:

    Difficult to compare different eras but McEnroe was the most talented player I have seen. Pretty sure the amount of variation he had would have given Federer problems.

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    It is Federer’s speed, foot movement, guile, variation of serve, shot selection, ease around the court, temperament and incredible fitness; let alone his outstanding grand slam record, which help contribute to making him the greatest of all time.

    Andre Agassi said in 2005 that no player he had faced presented him with more problems or was more difficult to play against than Roger Federer; not even Pete Sampras.

    McEnroe has been asked many times if he was a better player than Federer and how he would have coped against him. He once said that Federer could have coped easily with anything he could throw at him and that Roger could have made him look stupid, or just simply blown him off the court. That is how highly he rates Federer – irrespective of what equipment both used.

    Rod Laver maintains that it is impossible to compare eras ( which is probably true ), whereas Roy Emerson, on th eother hand is in no doubt whatsoever that Federer is rightfully regarded as the best ever. How anyone can disagree is beyond me. :wink:

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    However, I am very disappointed at Federer’s pre-match comments.

    I thought he was above that sort of thing. Along with Usain Bolt, he is the one sportsman who does not need to resort to mind games.

    There was nothing wrong with what Federer said pre match. And what do you mean "above that sort of thing?" He’s openly criticised Djokovic’s level of fitness for example, laughed at Nadal’s time wasting, laughed at Murray being installed favourite at the Australian Open in 2009 with some classic comments. He just says what he feels. And, fortunately, he’s about the only sporting champion on planet earth who doesn’t present this falseness where I could write their post match speech for them – a PR trained robot in other words.

    And, with Tennis being a battle of mind and body between two direct opponents, I reckon it’s a bit different to a 100m race where someone is clearly around 0.5 seconds clear of the rest.

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    McEnroe has been asked many times if he was a better player than Federer and how he would have coped against him. He once said that Federer could have coped easily with anything he could throw at him and that Roger could have made him look stupid, or just simply blown him off the court. That is how highly he rates Federer – irrespective of what equipment both used.

    Let’s be realistic he is hardly going to say of course I am is he? It sounds to me that those comments are very tongue-in-cheek. I doubt whether Federer would answer the same question in the affirmative either.

    For me McEnroe had the superior serve and far better touch at the net. Those two factors alone would make him difficult to beat on a fast court. Obviously, in comparison Federer looks the far better athlete but that isn’t to say McEnroe couldn’t have upped his level in that department.

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    Federer is the stand out player for me, although I cannot comment on players from way back.

    I’ve been watching tennis for 25+ years & seen so
    many great players Borg, Connors, McEnroe, Lendl,
    Agassi, Sampras & Nadal but Federer is an artist
    on the tennis court & expect him to reach twenty
    grand slams before he’s thirty.

    Mark :)

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