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- November 17, 2014 at 17:30 #27039
I often wondered why Queally IMO was such a poor jockey and judge of pace and now I know the reason why. He must be sleep riding .
November 17, 2014 at 17:41 #495586Not easy when riding Frankel.How do you judge pace when restraining a horse and the world watching.
November 17, 2014 at 20:19 #495599My already low opinion of the man just got a whole lot lower. A quick google finds that his solicitor is non other than the infamous Nick "Mr Loophole" Freeman.
I don’t mind people getting off on a technicality, which exposes the at times incompetence and inefficiency of the Police and judicial system, however to use a man who laughs at the law and who insults our intelligence with a made up story like Sleep Driving is beyond belief. Remarkable, is it not that, Queally has never, as far as we are aware, sleep drove before? Is it not a coincidence that when he does sleep drive it just so happens he does it after an almighty bender. Strange that.
HIs reputation as a jockey worthy of the support of top yards has steadily eroded since the passing of Sir Henry Cecil, and now his reputation as a credible human being is in tatters. What of he had caused serious injury to other road users and/or pedestrians?
November 17, 2014 at 20:58 #495604HIs reputation as a jockey worthy of the support of top yards has steadily eroded since the passing of Sir Henry Cecil, and now his reputation as a credible human being is in tatters. What of he had caused serious injury to other road users and/or pedestrians?
Did you think the reputation of Sir Henry Cecil as a credible human being was in tatters too ?
November 17, 2014 at 22:29 #495628HIs reputation as a jockey worthy of the support of top yards has steadily eroded since the passing of Sir Henry Cecil, and now his reputation as a credible human being is in tatters. What of he had caused serious injury to other road users and/or pedestrians?
Did you think the reputation of Sir Henry Cecil as a credible human being was in tatters too ?
No, because he admitted the offence and gave up alcohol. Queally did not, and entered court with one of the most preposterous defences I have ever read.
November 17, 2014 at 23:01 #495632It was certainly an idiotic defence on every level. If he’d just held his hands up, it would barely have made the racing papers and he’d probably have got a shorter ban. As it is, his "sleep driving" claim is all over the national press. Even made front page of the BBC UK news website.
November 17, 2014 at 23:18 #495636I hope Queally can bounce back from this. We all make daft choices and struggle to own up to them sometimes.
He’s one of the very best jockeys riding at the moment and must be kicking himself at the timing of this scandal with so many good retainer jobs available. At least Big Easy was a timely reminder of his talents.
November 17, 2014 at 23:19 #495637HIs reputation as a jockey worthy of the support of top yards has steadily eroded since the passing of Sir Henry Cecil, and now his reputation as a credible human being is in tatters. What of he had caused serious injury to other road users and/or pedestrians?
Did you think the reputation of Sir Henry Cecil as a credible human being was in tatters too ?
No, because he admitted the offence and gave up alcohol. Queally did not, and entered court with one of the most preposterous defences I have ever read.
Really ? You question Queally because he could have injured someone. Sir Henry was about the same amount over the limit as Queally, he injured two elderly pedestrians who needed hospital treatment, lied to the police by telling them someone else was driving, had two children in the car and it was his second drink driving offence. Hey, that’s all ok though.
November 17, 2014 at 23:28 #495638I hope Queally can bounce back from this. We all make daft choices and struggle to own up to them sometimes.
He’s one of the very best jockeys riding at the moment and must be kicking himself at the timing of this scandal with so many good retainer jobs available. At least Big Easy was a timely reminder of his talents.
Agree.
November 18, 2014 at 09:22 #495651To this day I still wonder what happened to Tom Queally when he rode Frankel in the St James Palace Stakes, not that I’m suggesting anything. I remember his face in the starting stalls, he looked absolutely petrified to me then he went on to produce one of the worst rides I’ve ever seen in a group one. Only Frankel could have got him out of that mess. Other than that ride I thought Queally was superb aboard the great horse, but I’ll never forget that day at Ascot and I’d love to know what went through Queally’s mind.
November 18, 2014 at 12:03 #495667To this day I still wonder what happened to Tom Queally when he rode Frankel in the St James Palace Stakes, not that I’m suggesting anything. I remember his face in the starting stalls, he looked absolutely petrified to me then he went on to produce one of the worst rides I’ve ever seen in a group one. Only Frankel could have got him out of that mess. Other than that ride I thought Queally was superb aboard the great horse, but I’ll never forget that day at Ascot and
I’d love to know what went through Queally’s mind
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We’ll never know what went through Queally’s
mind
, but I’ll bet that whatever it was, it was severely dwarfed in terms of quantity by what went through his
hips
in the closing stages of the race

Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
November 18, 2014 at 12:20 #495668I am not defending what Cecil did. He did initially lie, but had the good sense to confess before it got to court. He then set about ensuring there would be no repeat by giving up alcohol – something that is very hard to do when you have a drink problem.
Queally not only refused to confess, but concocted the must absurd defence most people have ever heard. In my experience when people who commit crimes don’t confess they usually go on to re-offend because they are of the opinion their behaviour was acceptable.
As for Queally being one of the best jockeys riding at the moment – thats almost as ridiculous as his defence in court. None of the top stables use him on a regular basis to ride spares, and the likes of Fanshawe and Cumani use him sparingly. You would have thought if he was "one of the best" Abdullah would have retained him, especially after Frankel. Godolphin could have snapped him up but preferred others.
November 18, 2014 at 13:02 #495671I am not defending what Cecil did. He did initially lie, but had the good sense to confess before it got to court. He then set about ensuring there would be no repeat by giving up alcohol – something that is very hard to do when you have a drink problem.
Queally not only refused to confess, but concocted the must absurd defence most people have ever heard. In my experience when people who commit crimes don’t confess they usually go on to re-offend because they are of the opinion their behaviour was acceptable.
As for Queally being one of the best jockeys riding at the moment – thats almost as ridiculous as his defence in court. None of the top stables use him on a regular basis to ride spares, and the likes of Fanshawe and Cumani use him sparingly. You would have thought if he was "one of the best" Abdullah would have retained him, especially after Frankel. Godolphin could have snapped him up but preferred others.
Queally did
admit
the offence. The sleepwalking thing was used in
mitigation
by his lawyer. Anyone in his position where he relies on driving for his job would have used what he could to try and make the penalty smaller. That is his lawyers job. You have no evidence that he will commit the offence again. Remember Cecil did. It seems your view is coloured by an obvious dislike of Queally. To say he has lost credibility as a person for the offence but then saying that someone who was convicted and then repeated the offence keeps his is quite frankly bizarre.
November 18, 2014 at 13:20 #495672You’re obviously entitled to disagree Ivanjica, but I honestly do think Queally is one of the top 5 or 10 at the moment. The alcohol scandal rather backs up my original suspicion about the reason behind Lady Cecil dropping him being something personal rather than professional.
Apart from one moment of madness, Queally barely let team Cecil down in the last two years. It must have been hard for him to ‘get in’ with a big job last year with most of them being spoken-for already. Mention ‘alcohol’ or ‘drink driving’ and you immediately close the door to most lucrative Arab retainers too!
He was also the first-choice jockey for Barney Curley right up until the trainer’s apparent retirement. That has to be the ultimate compliment to his ability to both ‘play the game’ and get a winner home when all the pressure is on.
November 18, 2014 at 15:18 #495678I was under the impression that Queally left Warren Place rather than the other way round. I could be wrong of course!
I don’t think the public ever really took to him even when Frankel was strutting his stuff. I remember when the prizes were being handed over there would be huge cheers for the horse and trainer but only enthusiastic applause for the jockey.
I have often found him a bit cold and calculating. Driven to succeed. Probably vital qualities but I’m not sure how popular it makes him in the weighing room or with the public.
As for his skills, I tend to side with those who say he is not right at the top. I think that his coldness (coolness) under pressure was a perfect match for the highly-strung Frankel and he certainly never put a foot wrong on him other than the aforementioned SJP. He doesn’t look that well balanced to me and I see him often forced to stop riding and straighten his mount. I remember specifically rides on Stipulate, Jet Away and of course the Guineas on Jacqueline Quest where this cost the horses victory. James Doyle was also able to get a tune out of Noble Mission that eluded Tom.
Still I don’t want to knock a bloke when he’s down and I guess when you have reached the summit there is only one direction you can go. I just hope that this is not the start of a slippery slope.
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November 18, 2014 at 17:17 #495692To this day I still wonder what happened to Tom Queally when he rode Frankel in the St James Palace Stakes, not that I’m suggesting anything. I remember his face in the starting stalls, he looked absolutely petrified to me then he went on to produce one of the worst rides I’ve ever seen in a group one. Only Frankel could have got him out of that mess. Other than that ride I thought Queally was superb aboard the great horse, but I’ll never forget that day at Ascot and I’d love to know what went through Queally’s mind.
Remember how Henry Cecil rolled his eyes straight afterwards?
November 18, 2014 at 19:04 #495703Does anyone still produce those computerised jockey assessments that, from memory, John Whitley used to produce? I remember it being a topic that James Willoughby once visited but I forget what was said. Subjective assessments of jockeys are in the main flawed IMO (apart from the glaringly obvious like Moore/Cauthen/Piggott) so it’d be interesting to see how Queally stacks up against his peers from that perspective.
He was also the first-choice jockey for Barney Curley right up until the trainer’s apparent retirement. That has to be the ultimate compliment to his ability to both ‘play the game’ and get a winner home when all the pressure is on.
OR TYF, simply a compliment to his ability to keep his trap shut when someone is, to all intents and purposes, cheating.
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