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May 13, 2011 at 13:38 #355248
Midas Touch was set to run in Yorkshire Cup but got injured
Don’t know where you got that info Ruby, but definitely inaccurate.
He’s in country Victoria, Australia, with Lloyd Williams and Robert Hickmott.
May 13, 2011 at 14:59 #355266Got it from irish Journalist piece in the paper but obviously was completely inaccurate. I do know he was entered up early in the season for the group races in England.
I was surprised he was kept at ballydoyle when i read the piece intially
May 18, 2011 at 02:51 #355899Gentoo very likely to miss the race, reports the Racing Post.
Henry II entries out on Friday, Saval Beg entries out on Tuesday.
May 21, 2011 at 20:16 #356518Neither Sans Frontieres nor Rite of Passage in the Henry II entries.
May 21, 2011 at 20:51 #356525Help – what does this mean? Are they both likely non-runners in the Gold Cup or are they going to Ascot without a prior run (which does seem odd)? Please Sans Frontieres have a go!
May 22, 2011 at 12:15 #356601Rite of Passage will be entered in the Saval Beg, Dermot Weld said this morning.
Sans Frontieres I’d imagine will skip the race. I think he’ll start his season in the Princess of Wales’, the race he won last year.
May 23, 2011 at 17:07 #356837Thanks, Zarkava. Seems a bit odd – SF had three runs prior to the Princess of Wales last year. Either their main target is the Melbourne Cup and they are looking at only a few races to try and get a nice-ish weight, or something is wrong. SF is somewhat fragile I think, and has missed some of Noseda’s older horse gallops. Or is JN being ridiculously secretive on his website?
Pity, I think he could have been very competitive in the Gold Cup. Like Fallon said about Yeats in his first GC, if Fame and Glory stays, he wins. Only my opinion of course!
On a completely different topic, Zarkava, can you tell me where on the Weatherby’s website you can access the stallion information (runners to winners, runners to stakes winners, etc)that you’ve mentioned on another thread. I couldn’t find it – though maybe it was staring me in the face!!
Thanks in advance.
May 23, 2011 at 17:37 #356846The very few stats I have have come from a Bloodstock Consultant for Freddie Head’s stable. He also writes for EBN.
May 24, 2011 at 12:40 #356983Thanks, Z. I’d hoped that information would be more readily available – which to be fair it probably is to those in the bloodstock and breeding industry.
May 24, 2011 at 19:23 #357052Sans Frontier is to run in the Hardwicke according to racingpost.com
May 24, 2011 at 20:23 #357064I don’t think he’ll get past Await The Dawn there, but the Princess of Wales will be a good spot for him.
What does everyone think about the Gold Cup – is it a match between last year’s winner and the classy but unknown distance-wise Fame and Glory? Am I missing something? Perhaps the Saval Beg will spring a surprise??? Does Theology have a chance for Noseda??
May 24, 2011 at 21:30 #357070Surely if it’s a true run Gold Cup, Fame and Glory shouldn’t stay…
however, will it be a true run 2m4f??What has Rite of Passage been doing since last year – missed out a hurdles campaign, and still hasn’t run. Has he been injured?
Where’s Big Buck’s……..
May 24, 2011 at 22:01 #357074I would have absolutely no concern whatsoever about Fame and Glory staying 20f. His pedigree screams nothing but stamina. I’ve been very frustrated by this horse winning Group 1s and have apparaised O’Brien’s campaigning of him several times. It is a testament to O’Brien’s genius and Coolmore’s intelligence that they found several 10 1/2f and 12f Group 1s against sub-standard opposition for him to win. And it’s a testament to his class that he’s been able to win them. It’s not just myself that’s been screaming for Fame and Glory to go down the Cup route and finally we’re getting our wish.
I think they realise now that given his pedigree and the manner in which he’s been brushed aside in better quality Group 1s, there’s little point pursuing a proper flat stallion career with him and they might as well try and replace Yeats (irreplacable) with a horse who may well be able to emulate his achievements.
He will get 20f standing on his head. Infinitely more stamina in his pedigree than either Age of Aquarius or Yeats.
May 24, 2011 at 22:10 #357077It worries me that he was not running on at the end of his seasonal debut though.
May 24, 2011 at 22:29 #357081Did it worry you about St. Nicholas Abbey finishing 3rd before Chester? Or Yeats finishing 2nd before the Coronation Cup?
Fame and Glory has always been utter rubbish on seasonal debuts and will have progressed something around 10lbs from that outing. Beat Sirgarfieldsobers on debut by 1 1/4L, beat Fergus McIver in the Ballysax by 1L, beaten 3L by She’s Our Mark last year at 2/5 and scraped home last month.
On RPRs he’s improved by 22, 6 and 18lbs from seasonal debuts to his 2nd run so I wouldn’t be concerned in the slightest.
May 25, 2011 at 09:52 #357124Just a matter of interest – what is Ireland’s version of the Gold Cup? And please don’t say the Irish Leger….
They don’t have a 2m Gp1 race do they???May 25, 2011 at 11:07 #357138Curragh Cup i think over 1m6f….the Ascot Gold Cup is a unique race.
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