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Well racing post ratings are normally higher than official marks. What’s Annie Powers racing post rating?
170.
Mike
Well racing post ratings are normally higher than official marks. What’s Annie Powers racing post rating?
Annie Power RPR 170
Where is my RPR to OR conversion table, calculated from 33,000 races using linear curve regression.
RPR Conv:
https://web.cloud.virginmedia.com/?shareObject=dec5a240-b79a-28ad-906f-137f3092c597Mike.
Maybe I’m thick but I can’t make Faugheen’s official rating of 176 tie in with his Racing Post Rating of 177 on any conversion.
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
Maybe I’m thick but I can’t make Faugheen’s official rating of 176 tie in with his Racing Post Rating of 177 on any conversion.
You have to remember Steve that Faugheen’s ratings are only somebodys assessment.
I sat one day and calculated that the highest rating a horse could possibly achieve when conditions were favourably, was 160 over the jumps and 130 on the flat.
There has to be a limit on what a horse can achieve, without entering into the realms of fantasy.
Mike.
Maybe I’m thick but I can’t make Faugheen’s official rating of 176 tie in with his Racing Post Rating of 177 on any conversion.
You have to remember Steve that Faugheen’s ratings are only somebodys assessment.
I sat one day and calculated that the highest rating a horse could possibly achieve when conditions were favourably, was 160 over the jumps and 130 on the flat.
There has to be a limit on what a horse can achieve, without entering into the realms of fantasy.
Mike.
Surely all ratings are just somebody’s assessment. My point is whether you can always convert Racing Post to Official ratings with any certainty for all cases.
I would agree with the fantasy sentiment and cite The Racing Post’s rating of Don Cossack on 182 as right up there with Ricardo Montalban on Fantasy Island.
Apples Jade has breached the 160 mark that was seemingly a ceiling that was impregnable on your calculations, does that rating surprise you?
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Apples Jade has breached the 160 mark that was seemingly a ceiling that was impregnable on your calculations, does that rating surprise you?
Yes it does.
When I compiled my speed figures for the race Apple Jade earned a figure of 125, and Dave Edwards made it 135, the winner of the champion hurdle I would expect to earn a speed figure in the +150’s
As far as I am aware I am the only speed handicapper who calculates the extra yardage from rail movements before compiling speed figures.
I could go on about what I have learned over the years, but quite frankly nobody is interested.
Mike.
Aintree 2016 speed figures:
AINTREE 2016:
https://web.cloud.virginmedia.com/?shareObject=f52e32bb-bea5-ca9e-35e3-fae03c5e7bc8No Surprise that Douvan topped the list with a speed figure of 154
Mike.
Apples Jade has breached the 160 mark that was seemingly a ceiling that was impregnable on your calculations, does that rating surprise you?
Yes it does.
When I compiled my speed figures for the race Apple Jade earned a figure of 125, and Dave Edwards made it 135, the winner of the champion hurdle I would expect to earn a speed figure in the +150’s
As far as I am aware I am the only speed handicapper who calculates the extra yardage from rail movements before compiling speed figures.
I could go on about what I have learned over the years, but quite frankly nobody is interested.
Mike.
Thanks for that Mike, it sounds like some of the other compilers are a bit lazy and unprofessional if they are not allowing for extra distance.
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The official handicapper gave Apples Jade a mark of 153, so clearly he didn’t have the Viagra tablet in his coffee that the Racing Post guy did.
Interesting to me that The Racing Post have Apples Jade higher than Altior, whose Supreme Novices’ form is holding up well
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That’s a well handicapped horse. Should be closerr to 160. Look at peace and cos rating from last year, maybe the handicapper is just afraid of overrating juveniles considering how badly last years did this year as 5 year olds
Wins again incredibly comfortably. How could she and Ivanovic have the same rating after what happened in Aintree. Both were rated 153 going into the race today. Don’t think I was too far off in suggesting 160+ is her true rating
Why is the trainer now talking about France? Does he want to run her into the ground?
Anyone else would just put her away and train her for the Champion Hurdle. There is no clash with the others because Gigginstown don’t have any other contenders.
I know I `ll be accused of short termism among other things but that 7 lb concession to fillies and mares is starting to look grossly unfair.
I know I `ll be accused of short termism among other things but that 7 lb concession to fillies and mares is starting to look grossly unfair.
I understand the react but we are talking about three exceptional mares Annie, VVM and apples jade. It’s very rare that three should be around at the one time and even rarer that the three be in the same yard. How many mares have won grade ones with their 7 pound allowance? (Excluding mares grade ones obviously)
Yes, they are exceptional. It all seems to have happened at a time when opportunities for mares are really opening up though we may go a long time without seeing this repeated.
Yes, they are exceptional. It all seems to have happened at a time when opportunities for mares are really opening up though we may go a long time without seeing this repeated.
Let’s not forget that there was no mares’ allowance prior to the 1983-4 National Hunt season. The introduction of the gender allowance and the development of “mares only” races over the last thirty years have led to the situation which we now see before us.
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