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Which top sprinter in the 80’s burst through the stalls prior to a Group race when he was a short price fav and I had had a lumpy bet on him, ran the entire length of the track without the jockey on, ran into some gates at the entrance to the track but was still allowed to take his chance? Despite this he was narrowly beaten into second place by a horse owned by Terry Ramsden
Could the horse be Silver Fling 13/8 fav in the Diadem Stakes(Gr.3) 1989, 2nd to Chummy’s Favourite?
Silver Fling won the Abbaye(Gr.1) in her next run.Best Wishes
SilkNice try KS, incorrect though.
How did Chummys Fav ever manage to beat Silver Fling? Reckon it must have been a top ride from Frankie, Chummys Fav’s previous win was a 2 grand handicap at Brighton under Silver Fling’s jockey.
To get back to my horse in question, he has a namesake who posts on this forum.
Thanks Yeats, but it was only because of the namesake in here.
I had tried to look up Grey Desire before, but there are no records available, only thing I could find with a little record was on pedigreequery.com, not exactly factbased.
Do you know where I could find free records on fx Grey Desire, I’m not gona pay Weatherbys by the question…?
Next q, later.Best Wishes
SilkIt is a bit of a problem KS, I would like to look up Grey Desire’s record myself to make sure I didn’t imagine him bolting prior to the Duke of York. I have one or two formbooks from around that time and have used my memory, not ideal. Was hoping the race might be on youtube but can’t find it there either, maybe espmadrid has got it in his loft.
Think the problem is with the Racing Post not starting till the late 80’s there seems to be no records prior to that. Maybe one or two other posters have some ideas.
Ok Yeats, was worth trying to find (another records database).
I found 2 races with Grey Desire incl the Duke of York https://youtu.be/q54A89R026g
Impressing win in the Quail Stakes https://youtu.be/Apibm92IZ98Next Q: Name the first Scandinavian (Danish) born Jockey to ride in the Grand National, the Year and the horse.
Best Wishes
SilkSorry to say I don’t have the race in question, however, below is his career record (races I have on video are marked with *)
GREY DESIRE grey horse by Habat out of Noddy Time (Gratitude)
1982 (2-y-o) Trainer: M W Easterby
12th June, York – 5f – Selling Stakes – Unplaced
5th July, Edinburgh – 5f – Glenfuir Stakes – 1st, 10-1
15th July, Hamilton – 5f – Motherwell Stakes – 3rd, 4-7f
26th August, Beverley – 5f – Figham Stakes – 1st, 16-1
4th September, Thirsk – 1m – Nursery H’cap – 3rd, 9-2
14th September, Redcar – 5f – Nursery H’cap – 1st, 13-8
16th October, Catterick – 7f – Ogden Spacemaker Stakes – 2nd, 9-21983 (3-y-o) Trainer: D P Plant
21st May, Thirsk – 6f – Thirsk Sprint Stakes – 4th, 50-1
31st May, Redcar – 5f – Northern Sprint H’cap – 3rd, 6-1
11th June, York – 6f – William Hill Trophy H’cap – Unplaced
25th June, Newcastle – 7f – Journal Good Morning H’cap – 2nd, 33-1
9th July, Ayr – 6f – Tote Sprint Trophy H’cap – 2nd, 11-4
21st July, Newcastle – 7f – Beeswing Stakes – last1984 (4-y-o) Trainer: D P Plant
24th March, Doncaster – 1m – Lincoln Handicap – Unplaced *
14th April, Thirsk – 6f – Thirsk Hall Stakes – 1st, 14-1
21st April, Newcastle – 7f – McEwan’s Lager H’cap – Unplaced
28th April, Leicester – 7f – Holsten Pils Trophy Stakes – 3rd, 14-1
17th May, York – 6f – Duke of York Stakes – Unplaced
26th May, Ayr – 7f – Tia Maria H’cap – 2nd, 12-1
2nd June, Thirsk – 6f – Thirsk Sprint Stakes – 1st, 12-1
21st June, Ascot – 6f – Cork and Orrery Stakes – Unplaced
30th June, Newmarket – 7f – Van Geest Stakes – 1st, 12-1
14th July, Lingfield – 7f 140y – Marley Roof Tile Stakes – 4th, 7-2
28th July, Newcastle – 7f – Beeswing Stakes – 4th, 9-2
6th September, York – 6f – Innovative Marketing Sprint H’cap – Unplaced
13th September, Doncaster – 7f – Kiveton Park Stakes – 4th, 11-1*
21st September, Ayr – 6f – Ayr Gold Cup – Unplaced*
1st October, Goodwood – 7f – Harroways Stakes – 4th, 14-1
18th October, Newmarket – 7f – Fordham H’cap – Unplaced1985 (5-y-o) Trainer: M Brittain
23rd March, Doncaster – 6f – Cammidge Trophy – Unplaced
8th April, Kempton – 6f – Quail Stakes – 1st, 14-1
17th April, Newmarket – 6f – Abernant Stakes – 1st, 9-4f
20th April, Thirsk – 6f – Thirsk Hall Stakes – 2nd, 11-8f
4th May, Haydock – 7f 40y – Fairey Spring Trophy – 1st, 3-1
16th May, York – 6f – Duke of York Stakes – 2nd, 15-8f
28th May, Sandown – 5f – Temple Stakes – 4th, 5-2
1st June, Thirsk – 6f – Dick Peacock Memorial Sprint Stakes – 3rd, 7-4f
20th June, Ascot – 6f – Cork and Orrery Stakes – Unplaced*
11th July, Newmarket – 6f – July Cup – Unplaced*
27th July, Newcastle – 7f – Beeswing Stakes – Unplaced
31st July, Goodwood – 1m – Sussex Stakes – Unplaced*
16th July, Newbury – 7f 60y – Hungerford Stakes – 3rd, 50-1
7th September, Haydock – 6f – Vernons Sprint Cup – 4th, 8-1*
20th September, Ayr – 6f – Ayr Gold Cup – Unplaced
28th September, Ascot – 6f – Diadem Stakes – Unplaced*
30th September, Goodwood – 7f – Harroways Stakes – Unplaced
10th October, York – 1m – Marlboro Cup H’cap – 3rd, 8-1
26th October, Doncaster – 6f – Solaglas Energy Savers H’cap – Unplaced*
9th November, Doncaster – 6f – Remembrance Day Stakes – 1st, 9-21986 (6-y-o) Trainer: M Brittain
22nd March, Doncaster – 6f – Cammidge Trophy – 1st, 7-4f
31st March, Kempton – 6f – Quail Stakes – 1st, 8-11f
16th April, Newmarket – 6f – Abernant Stakes – 2nd, 6-4f
3rd May, Haydock – 7f 40y – Fairey Spring Trophy – 4th, 7-4f
15th May, York – 6f – Duke of York Stakes – 1st, 4-1*
26th May, Sandown – 5f – Temple STakes – 2nd, 5-1*
7th June, Haydock – 7f 40y – John of Gaunt Stakes – Unplaced
10th July, Newmarket – 6f – July Cup – 2nd, 20-1*
18th July, Newbury – 6f – Hackwood Stakes – 3rd, 9-1
3rd August, Deauville – 6f 110y – Prix Maurice de Gheest – Unplaced
15th August, Newbury – 7f 60y – Hungerford Stakes – Unplaced*
21st August, York – 5f – Sprint Championship – Unplaced*
23rd August, Goodwood – 1m – Waterford Crystal Mile – Last*
6th September, Haydock – 6f – Vernons Sprint Cup – Unplaced*
16th October, Newmarket – 7f – Challenge Stakes – Unplaced*
8th November, Doncaster – 6f – Remembrance Day Stakes – Unplaced....and you've got to look a long way back for anything else.
No idea if he was the first KS, but I’ll have a stab with Lars Kelp, who rode The Thirsty Farmer in 1989?
No idea if he was the first KS, but I’ll have a stab with Lars Kelp, who rode The Thirsty Farmer in 1989?
Well done VTC!
He’s the one I meant, Lars Kelp now training at the brand new Bro Park outside Stockholm. He’s supposed to be the first Dane in the National.
Lars Kelp was the Wonderboy of Scandinavia in the early 1980’ties, winning it all; Jockeys Championship as an apprentice, Classic winner on one of the Great Scandinavian racefillies Humbug, who also ran in the Washington DC International with young Kelp up.
Even the apprentice weight allowance was lowered due to Kelps domination in the races in Denmark!Over to you VTC.
Best Wishes
SilkCheers KS, as I said, no idea if he had been the first, but certainly the only one I could think of. Good to hear he’s still going strong.
Ok, here’s one which I’m sure you or others will get straight away, it’s too easy, but thought it an obvious one to ask on the same theme, and I don’t really like setting the questions lol
Q. Name the last Scandinavian trained horse in The National.Trinitro in 2000, trained by Rune Haugen. I’m not aware of any other Scandinavian trained horse having run in the race.
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