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Time to seal the border? Could easily be done
We have the resources to seize the oil rigs and blow up that parliament building that we paid for
Deportation of natives (just gather them up from the park benches) and an embargo of exports of Mars Bars and Buckfast wine will lead to mass starvation
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<!– s:) –>I don’t know why you’re shocked, Clive.
Over and over again, your posts give the impression that you believe you’re inherently superior to both the Scots and the Irish.
(and I’m guessing the Welsh, too)
Now, it seems that these sorts of remarks are still tolerated in the UK – and that includes comments about the English from some Scots – while similar remarks about black people, asians, jews etc would be called racism.
However, that doesn’t mean that your remarks aren’t racist… and, it also leaves this reader wondering what you’d be saying about black people, asians and/or jews if you thought this forum would tolerate it.
(the way this forum has turned a blind eye to some of your more offensive posts about other nationalities)
I don’t wish to be PC and banter along national lines is fine when it’s banter. However, your comments are relentless in one direction*. Which is why I think that, deep down, you really believe the sh!t you write.
Steve
*Even to the point that you don’t seem capable of writing anything generous about some leading Irish trainers.
Believe what you want to believe
You havent a clue about my views. In fact i could have taken real excpetion to the garbage you have spewed out but frankly ….youre not worth it…
why aren’t betfair already opening markets on the next election ?
can’t say it’s too far away as bets are there for next league winners, spreads would be quite popular from 0 seats up, the trading would almost certainly be huge
more so than the markets on bandy, etc
Believe what you want to believe
You havent a clue about my views. In fact i could have taken real excpetion to the garbage you have spewed out but frankly ….youre not worth it…
its quite obvious what your views are. Your frequent comments along these lines are tiresome and increasingly banal. Change the record mate.
The Labour party in Scotland has become a bit of a joke unfortunately since they have abandoned all of the things that make them better than the Tories.
I dont know why Clive is getting a load of stick here .. nearly all Scots are white, how can anyone slagging off other whites be a rascist? Or is this a modern thing that I missed.
Not worth going into Dave
Most jocks i know have always been able to laugh at themselves a bit ….its agood british trait…but as you know, you do get some real dour typesBut whats the view up there? Is this protest voting still or what? Many seem to think its the slippery slope to independence (which many down here a not entirely against) but i wonder???
I suppose labour couldnt win anywhere at the moment…
From what i saw, the labour candidate seemed pretty good…which makes to result even worse
It seems to me that we are walking into Independance at the minute. The SNP have done some really good stuff since they came to power like abolishing the toll on the Cincardine Bridge, reducing the amount of debt that young people incurr if they want to go to Uni and reducing prescription charges. All good socialist policies that the Labour party have tried to block, there’s no working it out ?!?!?
Where I live at the last council election the SNP went from 0 concillors to taking over the council in one swipe, because the Labour party wanted to shut the hospital down and the SNP said they wouldn’t.
In the long run the SNP dont want proper independance they want to throw us in with the Europeans. So in the short term the SNP are better than the rest the long game could prove to be a disaster for normal working people.
I dont know why Clive is getting a load of stick here .. nearly all Scots are white, how can anyone slagging off other whites be a rascist? Or is this a modern thing that I missed.
Its more a case of him slagging off Northerners in general – seems to be his favourite hobby. I could of course retort by calling all Southerners a bunch of shandy-quaffing gayboys, but that of course would be childish.
Most jocks i know have always been able to laugh at themselves a bit ….its agood british trait…but as you know, you do get some real dour types
For the record, I’m not Scottish. Nor am I dour (well, not usually).
I can well understand why Scots would want independence being stuck next to all those northerners….
I think the SNP have a quality leader in Salmond (although all this is froma distance admittedly) and they seemingly cleverly exploit certain issues. All very well the SNP bringing in these spending policies, but how are they paid for? Someone has to stump up the bill somewhere…
Its not us again is it?!
Three things to bear in mind (possibly more, as I’m making this up as I go):
The Labour candidate was a hideous crow, and not the ‘good candidate’ you claim, clivex. It was Glasgow East – the SLP wouldn’t field a half-good candidate in that vicinity.
Salmond is a f*ckwit. He is sleepwalking the Scottish people into independence, aided and abetted on three fronts; firstly, the true cost of an SNP government has yet to manifest itself, because they have no tax-raising powers; two, the entire UK is in disarray, but he can conveniently place the blame at the door of the UK parliament; thirdly, the Scottish voting public are apathetic and pathetic in equal measure, and barely have any cognition of how fu*cked they’d be under Independence.
Caveat all of that with the following: even I’m starting to wonder whether the current constitutional arrangement does anyone any good. For me, the UK parliament is vastly less representative of “the will of the people” than Holyrood is. Personally speaking, I’d rather we implemented a form of PR to elect a representative UK parliament, but in the absence of such an arrangement, even I might be willing to row in with a democratically elected – and independent – Scottish parliament.
If even I’m starting to feel this way, then it’s a fair bet that the tide is starting to turn in a serious way.
I think the UK is better than the sum of it’s constituent parts, and that it could be washed away due to the inadequacies of our Parliaments over the last 30 years, would be a monumental, and irreversible, mistake, imo.
You been on the Tennents Super Grass?
As it happens i agree with alot of that. I think Salmond is opportunistic in his apportionment of blame and he knows it. But that doesnt make him a div
As for PR, well as someone who votes keenly for his local MP (Vincent Cable …who is a lovely bloke) i should disagree, but i dont. The first past the post system is a farce. Would be introduced if we were starting from scratch? Of course not….
The biggest constitutional system ( glad i spelt that…ive been on white wine…not tennents) fault is handing the premiership (which is more significant than ever) to an unelected leader without any "will of the people"
I think thats a major factor in Browns troubles. Of course, one leader might not be very different in out look to the last, but as we saw in london with Ken Livingstone ( in his early GLC days) you can be lumbered with someone whos views are massively at varience from those elected.Many voters who stomached Blair (who i believe was a far more skilful and intuitive leader than hes been given credit for ) would not have wished for Brown. Especially in the south….
I dislike the scottish nationalists for trying too break up the unions, the fact their staff have gone on strike whrn the snp tried too make civil servants take a two percent pay increase when inflatiom is running at double that made me howl as the SNP are behaing as badly as labour are in the south!
The scots have a history for cocluding with the europeans, so what else is new, the fact they won the battle of bannock burn by hiring the Knights Templar ( who were by that time outlawed in most corners of europe bar Scotland) is a fact brave heat neglected, that and the euro mercinaries sent by the english king tried too charge accross marsh on heavy horse didnt help either.
If the scots g their own way fine, cut the cash supply and seal the border. Some scots hate the english depite a good many english people have scotts and irish acestery which is mad..
I hope scotland finds the grass in greener on their side of the border fence.
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