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  • #6950
    dallowboy
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    Hi ! I’m new to this site so please be gentle.

    Has anyone ever heard of an old handicap system called RACEMASTER?

    #148235
    dallowboy
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    Apparently, it involves keeping a record of handicap race results and when a horse wins two h’caps in a season (doesn’t have to be consecutive races) you look at the runner-up in the second race and, if it gave weight (1lb or more) to the winner and finished within two lengths of the winner then you mark it down for a bet on its next three runs. The reasoning being that you are backing a horse that has run well against an improver. Does anyone know if these are the complete rules? I’m thinking of giving it a try when the flat season starts proper. Any thoughts? Thanks.

    BTW this seems a great forum !

    Regards, Dallowboy.

    #148281
    Artemis
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    dallowboy

    Welcome to the forum.

    This system is new to me and could be worth a try. My only reservation is the qualifying distance of 2 lengths which doesn’t seem very much at distances beyond the 5 to 7f range.

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    robnorth
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    Could be worth making the acceptable distance beaten a set number of lengths per mile, so that at 6f a qualifier would need to be within 1.5 lengths of the winner, at 1m within 2 lengths of the winner, at 1m 4f within 3 lengths of the winner and at 2 miles finish within 4 lengths of the winner. Distances in between would use fractions of a length.
    Alternatively you might group distance together for convenience and to ease the figures:
    5-6f – 1.5 lengths
    7-10f – 2 lengths
    11-14f – 3 lengths
    15-18f – 4 lengths
    and so on upwards for longer distances.

    Not perfect, but useful as ‘working figures’.

    Rob

    #148416
    dallowboy
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    Hi Artemis and Robnorth!

    Thanks for your comments. Very useful. I’ll give it some thought and try to come up with some set "rules & regulations".

    Cheers,
    Dallowboy

    #148418
    Anonymous
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    Welcome to the forum, Darrowboy.

    Sounds like an interesting system.

    Others have already raised some questions about the margins of victory. As for me, two questions: –

    1. Why flat turf only?

    2. Why pick three runs to stop at?

    Regards,

    Brian

    #148421
    dallowboy
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    Hello bcsim

    I’m not sure of the answers to your queries. Maybe the "three runs" bit is just a case of "if it doesnt win by then, its not going to" and also I think you may get a lot of qualifiers! I’ll try to get hold of the bloke who told me about it and update things – he did say that its a system he used over thirty years ago!

    Dallowboy

    #148435
    Anonymous
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    Hi Dallowboy (got your tag right this time!),

    Thought I might have heard of RACEMASTER. No answers to questions, as such, but looking at my little book of systems, my notes say "applies to all types of racing, handicaps only" and "eliminate selection after three runs or any win".

    Just for your information, really.

    Brian

    #148465
    dallowboy
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    Thanks for that, Brian.

    I’m quite keen on the idea of this so I’ll find out what I can and post soon – hopefully!

    Regards, mike.

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