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  • #427713
    Avatar photoTheBluesBrother
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    where your link for your ratings from saturday
    thanks

    I just added the links, my signature had disappeared due to the fact that I clicked on "save", any of my previous posts links would have done as they are all linked to updated files 8)

    #427819
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    AW going allowances for 28/1/13.
    Kempton

    +0.06

    (standard)
    Wolverhampton

    -0.10

    (standard)

    Kempton speed figures:

    (No WFA)
    01:20 Camachoice 1m 0.06

    55

    01:50 Diplomatic 1m 0.06

    56

    02:20 Sand Boy 6f 0.06

    57

    02:50 Irene Kennet 1m4f 0.06

    63

    03:20 Asia Minor 1m4f 0.06

    60

    03:50 Rose Ransom 1m3f 0.06

    57

    04:20 Reflect 1m3f 0.06

    67

    04:50 Compton Rainbow 7f 0.06

    59

    Wolverhampton speed figures:

    (No WFA)
    01:40 Hab Reeh 6f -0.10

    65

    02:10 Lord Buffhead 6f -0.10

    54

    02:40 Hiddon Coin 6f -0.10

    57

    03:10 Henry The Aviator 7f -0.10

    57

    03:40 Lord Of The Dance 7f -0.10

    62

    04:10 Mick Dundee 1m½f -0.10

    41

    04:40 Naru 1m1½f -0.10

    65

    05:10 Hepworth 1m4f -0.10

    70

    Top ten speed figures:

    (3yo+)
    Kempton (AW) 28-Jan-13 Wildomar 9/4F

    72

    (Class 4)
    Kempton (AW) 28-Jan-13 Noguchi (IRE) 6/1

    71

    (Class 4)
    Kempton (AW) 28-Jan-13 Brimstone Hill (IRE) 11/4

    71

    (Class 4)
    Wolverhampton (AW) 28-Jan-13 Hepworth 13/8F

    70

    (Class 5)
    Kempton (AW) 28-Jan-13 Reflect (IRE) 7/1

    67

    (Class 4)
    Wolverhampton (AW) 28-Jan-13 Dazzling Valentine 11/1

    66

    (Class 5)
    Kempton (AW) 28-Jan-13 Shirataki (IRE) 6/1

    66

    (Class 6)
    Wolverhampton (AW) 28-Jan-13 Hab Reeh 7/4F

    65

    (Class 6)
    Wolverhampton (AW) 28-Jan-13 Naru (IRE) 9/4F

    65

    (Class 5)
    Kempton (AW) 28-Jan-13 Lady of Burgundy 7/1

    65

    (Class 6)

    Improver’s to note:

    2.50 Kempton

    Irene Kennet +10

    ,

    Youm Jamil +9

    and

    Shirataki +8

    3.20 Kempton

    Asia Minor +8

    1.40 Wolverhampton

    Hab Reeh +7

    #427955
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    AW going allowance for Wolverhampton 29/1/13 was

    +0.01

    (standard).

    AW going allowance table:

    Fast +0.50s/f
    Stand/Fast +0.18s/f to +0.40s/f
    Standard -0.15s/f to +0.15s/f
    Stand/Slow -0.48s/f to -0.18s/f
    Slow -0.70s/f to -0.50s/f

    Wolverhampton speed figures:

    (No WFA)
    02:00 Blazing Desert 1m6f 0.01

    24

    02:30 Climaxfortackle 6f 0.01

    40

    03:00 Stand Guard 1m4f 0.01

    64

    03:30 Faithful Ruler 1m1½f 0.01

    45

    04:00 Stormbound 1m½f 0.01

    53

    04:30 Fighter Boy 1m½f 0.01

    67

    05:00 Prince James 7f 0.01

    65

    05:30 Prince Of Passion 7f 0.01

    61

    Top ten speed figures:

    (3yo+)
    Wolverhampton (AW) 29-Jan-13 Fighter Boy (IRE) 11/2

    67

    (Class 6)
    Wolverhampton (AW) 29-Jan-13 Prince James 11/2

    65

    (Class 6)
    Wolverhampton (AW) 29-Jan-13 Stand Guard 1/8F

    64

    (Class 6)
    Wolverhampton (AW) 29-Jan-13 Arabian Flight 9/1

    64

    (Class 6)
    Wolverhampton (AW) 29-Jan-13 Activate 8/1

    61

    (Class 6)
    Wolverhampton (AW) 29-Jan-13 Dubai Celebration 11/2

    61

    (Class 6)
    Wolverhampton (AW) 29-Jan-13 Spinning Ridge (IRE) 5/1

    61

    (Class 6)
    Wolverhampton (AW) 29-Jan-13 Prince Of Passion (CAN) 4/1

    61

    (Class 6)
    Wolverhampton (AW) 29-Jan-13 Bitaphon (IRE) 9/4F

    60

    (Class 6)
    Wolverhampton (AW) 29-Jan-13 Spirit Of Gondree (IRE) 9/1

    57

    (Class 6)
    Wolverhampton (AW) 29-Jan-13 Daunt (IRE) 100/30

    57

    (Class 6)
    Wolverhampton (AW) 29-Jan-13 Ace Master 4/1

    57

    (Class 6)
    Wolverhampton (AW) 29-Jan-13 Piccolo Express 9/2

    57

    (Class 6)
    Wolverhampton (AW) 29-Jan-13 Maggie Pink 15/8F

    57

    (Class 6)

    Improver’s to note:

    4.30 Wolverhampton

    Fighter Boy +7

    and

    Arabian Flight
    +5

    #428032
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    AW going allowance for Kempton 30/1/13 was

    +0.10

    (standard).

    Kempton speed figures:

    (No WFA)
    04:50 Panther Patrol 5f 0.10

    49

    05:20 Canary Wharf 1m2f 0.10

    69

    05:50 Fleetwoodsands 7f 0.10

    54

    06:20 Litmus 1m 0.10

    51

    06:50 Chelsea Grey 6f 0.10

    24

    07:20 Light From Mars 7f 0.10

    78

    07:50 Prophets Pride 7f 0.10

    62

    Top ten speed figures:

    (3yo+)
    Kempton (AW) 30-Jan-13 Atlantis Crossing (IRE) 3/1

    80

    (Class 4)
    Kempton (AW) 30-Jan-13 Light From Mars 9/1

    78

    (Class 4)
    Kempton (AW) 30-Jan-13 Free Spin (IRE) 4/1

    77

    (Class 4)
    Kempton (AW) 30-Jan-13 Haaf A Sixpence 5/2F

    76

    (Class 4)
    Kempton (AW) 30-Jan-13 Purple ‘n Gold (IRE) 3/1

    70

    (Class 5)
    Kempton (AW) 30-Jan-13 Docofthebay (IRE) 16/1

    70

    (Class 4)
    Kempton (AW) 30-Jan-13 Canary Wharf (IRE) 7/2

    69

    (Class 5)
    Kempton (AW) 30-Jan-13 On The Hoof 9/4F

    65

    (Class 5)
    Kempton (AW) 30-Jan-13 Lujeanie 33/1

    65

    (Class 4)
    Kempton (AW) 30-Jan-13 Whitby Jet (IRE) 9/2

    64

    (Class 5)

    The only improver on the card was

    Litmus +6

    and the connections will be hard pushed to find another race this bad, his speed figure of

    51

    only just managed to beat my class 7 par of

    49

    by

    2lbs

    8)

    I know from experience, you need a horse in class 7 handicaps capable of achieving a speed figure in the high

    50’s

    for betting purposes 8)

    #428033
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    Thanks TBB,as always. :)

    Read on the forum about the possible re-opening of Great Leighs. Should be interesting. Was there a set of standards before it closed?

    #428034
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    Thanks TBB,as always. :)

    Read on the forum about the possible re-opening of Great Leighs. Should be interesting. Was there a set of standards before it closed?

    There was a set of RP standards for Great Leighs, they would be out-of-date now 8)

    #428104
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    AW going allowances for 31/01/13.
    Lingfield

    +0.18

    (standard to fast)
    Wolverhampton

    0.00

    (standard)
    Meydan Tapeta

    0.00

    (standard), Turf

    +0.10

    (good)

    Lingfield speed figures:

    (No WFA)
    01:30 Chambles 7f 0.18

    53

    02:00 Mick Dundee 1m 0.18

    61

    02:30 Charming 5f 0.18

    75

    03:00 Valdaw 6f 0.18

    51

    03:30 Norfolk Sky 1m2f 0.18

    58

    04:00 Whispering Warrior 1m 0.18

    55

    04:30 Jack My Boy 7f 0.18

    52

    Wolverhampton speed figures:

    (No WFA)
    04:50 Holy Angel 6f 0.00

    58

    05:20 Clubland 6f 0.00

    69

    05:50 Midnight Bahia 1m4f 0.00

    38

    05:50 Sir Dylan 1m4f 0.00

    45

    06:20 Young Jackie 1m1½f 0.00

    33

    06:50 Royal Bajan 5f 0.00

    68

    07:20 Goldan Jess 2m½f 0.00

    51

    07:50 Taxiformissbyron 1m½f 0.00

    37

    Meydan speed figures:

    (No WFA)
    02:30 Mushreq 1m2f 0.10

    106

    03:05 Kassiano 1m1½f 0.00

    74

    03:40 Medicean Man 5f 0.10

    100

    04:15 Rerouted 7f 0.00

    96

    04:50 The Apache 1m1f 0.10

    89

    05:25 Time Prisoner 7f 0.10

    83

    Top ten speed figures (English only):

    (3yo+)
    Lingfield (AW) 31-Jan-13 Charming (IRE) 7/1

    75

    (Class 6)
    Lingfield (AW) 31-Jan-13 Secret Millionaire (IRE) 4/5F

    74

    (Class 6)
    Wolverhampton (AW) 31-Jan-13 Proper Charlie 13/8F

    71

    (Class 5)
    Wolverhampton (AW) 31-Jan-13 Clubland (IRE) 8/1

    69

    (Class 5)
    Wolverhampton (AW) 31-Jan-13 Point North (IRE) 16/1

    68

    (Class 5)
    Wolverhampton (AW) 31-Jan-13 Royal Bajan (USA) 20/1

    68

    (Class 4)
    Lingfield (AW) 31-Jan-13 Greenhead High 9/2

    66

    (Class 6)
    Wolverhampton (AW) 31-Jan-13 Frequency 7/1

    65

    (Class 5)
    Wolverhampton (AW) 31-Jan-13 Triple Dream 6/1

    65

    (Class 4)
    Wolverhampton (AW) 31-Jan-13 Tyfos 22/1

    65

    (Class 4)

    Improver’s to note:

    2.30 Lingfield

    Charming +10

    ,

    Secret Millionaire +10

    and

    Putin +9

    #428194
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    AW going allowances for 1/2/13.
    Lingfield

    +0.25

    (standard to fast)
    Wolverhampton

    -0.05

    (standard)
    Dundalk

    +0.20

    (standard to fast)

    Lingfield speed figures:

    (No WFA)
    12:30 It´s Only Business 7f 0.25

    60

    01:00 Hoonose 2m 0.25

    33

    01:30 Malaysian Boleh 6f 0.25

    52

    02:00 Artful Lady 6f 0.25

    53

    02:35 Spellmaker 6f 0.25

    57

    03:10 Dali´s Lover 1m2f 0.25

    7

    03:45 Infinite Magic 1m2f 0.25

    64

    04:20 Stentorian 1m4f 0.25

    53

    Wolverhampton speed figures:

    (No WFA)
    04:50 Hurricane Spirit 1m1½f -0.05

    42

    05:25 Silver Alliance 1m1½f -0.05

    57

    06:00 Idol Deputy 1m½f -0.05

    46

    06:30 Rouge Nuage 1m½f -0.05

    8

    07:00 Piscean 6f -0.05

    97

    07:30 M J Woodward 5f -0.05

    68

    08:00 Derwentwater 7f -0.05

    74

    Dundalk speed figures:

    (No WFA)
    06:20 Pencil Hill 6f 0.20

    53

    06:50 Pique Sous 2m 0.20

    51

    07:20 Typhoon Lily 7f 0.20

    46

    07:50 Cookie Crumbles 7f 0.20

    47

    08:20 La Belle Maison 1m 0.20

    51

    08:50 Cash Or Casualty 1m 0.20

    53

    09:20 Atmospheric High 1m2½f 0.20

    48

    Top ten speed figures (English only):

    (3yo+)
    Wolverhampton (AW) 01-Feb-13 Piscean (USA) 7/2

    97

    (Class 4)
    Wolverhampton (AW) 01-Feb-13 York Glory (USA) 4/5F

    95

    (Class 4)
    Wolverhampton (AW) 01-Feb-13 Capone (IRE) 6/1

    86

    (Class 4)
    Wolverhampton (AW) 01-Feb-13 Forest Edge (IRE) 16/1

    81

    (Class 4)
    Wolverhampton (AW) 01-Feb-13 Cardinal 5/1

    78

    (Class 5)
    Wolverhampton (AW) 01-Feb-13 Sole Danser (IRE) 9/4F

    78

    (Class 5)
    Wolverhampton (AW) 01-Feb-13 Swiss Cross 15/2

    76

    (Class 4)
    Wolverhampton (AW) 01-Feb-13 Derwentwater (IRE) 5/4F

    74

    (Class 6)
    Wolverhampton (AW) 01-Feb-13 Lucky Dan (IRE) 3/1

    73

    (Class 5)
    Wolverhampton (AW) 01-Feb-13 Crimson Queen 40/1

    71

    (Class 5)

    Improver’s to note:

    2.35 Lingfield

    Spellmaker +11

    ,

    Do More Business +10

    and

    Mary’s Pet +7

    8.00 Wolverhampton

    Derwentwater +14

    and

    Shearian +9

    A special mention goes to

    Piscean

    who’s speed figure of

    97

    puts him into second place in the all weather speed figure table

    1lb

    behind

    Ballista

    8)

    #428253
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    I have come up with a method of calculating pace analysis on the all weather 8)

    Examples from yesterdays meetings:

    Wolverhampton (AW)

    01-Feb-13
    04:50 Hurricane Spirit 1m1½f

    -11

    05:25 Silver Alliance 1m1½f

    -4

    06:00 Idol Deputy 1m½f

    -17

    06:30 Rouge Nuage 1m½f

    -44

    07:00 Piscean 6f

    +46

    07:30 M J Woodward 5f

    +19

    08:00 Derwentwater 7f

    +11

    Lingfield (AW)

    01-Feb-13
    12:30 It´s Only Business 7f

    +16

    01:00 Hoonose 2m

    -5

    01:30 Malaysian Boleh 6f

    +1

    02:00 Artful Lady 6f

    +3

    02:35 Spellmaker 6f

    +14

    03:10 Dali´s Lover 1m2f

    -32

    03:45 Infinite Magic 1m2f

    +13

    04:20 Stentorian 1m4f

    -10

    looking at the pace figures you can see that

    Piscean +46

    ran in the race with the fastest pace :D

    The minimum standard for a true run race would be

    +10

    8)

    #428323
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    AW going allowances for 2/2/13.
    Lingfield

    +0.14

    (standard)
    Meydan Tapeta

    +0.26

    (standard to fast), Turf

    +0.10

    (good)

    AW going allowance table:

    Fast +0.50s/f
    Stand/Fast +0.18s/f to +0.40s/f
    Standard -0.15s/f to +0.15s/f
    Stand/Slow -0.48s/f to -0.18s/f
    Slow -0.70s/f to -0.50s/f

    Turf going allowance table:

    Firm +0.55s/f to +0.63s/f
    Good/firm +0.20s/f to +0.53s/f
    Good -0.25s/f to +0.18s/f
    Good/soft -0.55s/f to -0.28s/f
    Soft -1.00s/f to -0.58s/f
    Heavy -1.58s/f to -1.03s/f

    Lingfield speed figures:

    (No WFA)
    12:40 The Mongoose 1m 0.14

    64

    01:10 Shaolin 1m 0.14

    33

    01:45 Great Demeanor 7f 0.14

    23

    02:20 Frognal 6f 0.14

    74

    02:55 Speak The Truth 6f 0.14

    69

    03:30 Emerald Wilderness 1m 0.14

    94

    04:05 Noble Silk 1m4f 0.14

    74

    04:35 Spinning Ridge 7f 0.14

    61

    Meydan speed figures:

    (No WFA)
    02:50 Maltese Cat 7f 0.26

    76

    03:25 Al Razi 6f 0.26

    83

    04:00 Udabaa 1m3f 0.26

    68

    04:35 Rebel Song 1m1½f 0.26

    63

    05:10 Nawwaar 1m 0.10

    39

    05:45 Discoverer 7f 0.26

    75

    Top ten speed figures (English only):

    (3yo+)
    Lingfield (AW) 02-Feb-13 Emerald Wilderness (IRE) 12/1

    94

    (Class 3)
    Lingfield (AW) 02-Feb-13 George Guru 8/1

    89

    (Class 3)
    Lingfield (AW) 02-Feb-13 Webbow (IRE) 8/1

    88

    (Class 3)
    Lingfield (AW) 02-Feb-13 Grey Mirage 3/1F

    84

    (Class 3)
    Lingfield (AW) 02-Feb-13 Spirit Of Sharjah (IRE) 20/1

    83

    (Class 3)
    Lingfield (AW) 02-Feb-13 Mr Red Clubs (IRE) 8/1

    83

    (Class 3)
    Lingfield (AW) 02-Feb-13 Loyalty 20/1

    81

    (Class 3)
    Lingfield (AW) 02-Feb-13 Rakaan (IRE) 16/1

    79

    (Class 3)
    Lingfield (AW) 02-Feb-13 Lowther 4/1

    76

    (Class 3)
    Lingfield (AW) 02-Feb-13 Aquilonius (IRE) 14/1

    76

    (Class 3)

    Improver to note:

    2.55 Lingfield

    Speak The Truth +5

    This morning I had to send off an email to the

    Racing Post

    to point out for the third time, they have used the standard times at

    Meydan

    for the

    turf

    course, five of the races were run on the

    Tapeta

    :shock:

    The

    Tapeta

    going allowance for the past several meetings at

    Meydan

    has been riding between

    -0.05 to 0.00

    (standard), it looks like as this was a low quality field for

    Meydan

    they quickened the Tapeta suface up by

    26lbs

    per furlong to

    +0.26

    (standard to fast) 8)

    #428395
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    AW going allowance for Lingfield 3/2/13 was

    +0.27

    (standard to fast)

    Lingfield speed figures:

    (No WFA)
    01:40 Darkest Night 1m 0.27

    34

    02:10 Precision Strike 1m2f 0.27

    10

    02:40 Bridge That Gap 1m2f 0.27

    56

    03:10 Hard Walnut 6f 0.27

    50

    03:40 Fonterutoli 1m 0.27

    57

    04:10 Mister Musicmaster 1m 0.27

    50

    04:40 Maison Brillet 1m4f 0.27

    70

    Top ten speed figures:

    (3yo+)
    Lingfield (AW) 03-Feb-13 Maison Brillet (IRE) 6/1

    70

    (Class 6)
    Lingfield (AW) 03-Feb-13 Uncle Roger (IRE) 6/4F

    66

    (Class 6)
    Lingfield (AW) 03-Feb-13 El Libertador (USA) 5/1

    63

    (Class 6)
    Lingfield (AW) 03-Feb-13 Safwaan 2/1F

    58

    (Class 6)
    Lingfield (AW) 03-Feb-13 Barachiel 6/1

    57

    (Class 6)
    Lingfield (AW) 03-Feb-13 Fonterutoli (IRE) 7/1

    57

    (Class 6)
    Lingfield (AW) 03-Feb-13 Divine Rule (IRE) 8/1

    57

    (Class 6)
    Lingfield (AW) 03-Feb-13 Bridge That Gap 9/4

    56

    (Class 6)
    Lingfield (AW) 03-Feb-13 Gunner Will (IRE) 14/1

    56

    (Class 6)
    Lingfield (AW) 03-Feb-13 Daniel Thomas (IRE) 12/1

    54

    (Class 6)
    Lingfield (AW) 03-Feb-13 Teth 20/1

    54

    (Class 6)

    Improver’s to note:

    4.40 Lingfield

    Maison Brillet +10

    ,

    El Libertador +8

    and

    Uncle Roger +6

    #428432
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    El Libertador shows more improvement. He would probably win a race if he wasn’t trained by Wheeler. :o

    Interesting pace figures, certainly a lot of food for thought. :idea:

    Thanks again TBB.

    #428436
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    Interesting pace figures, certainly a lot of food for thought. :idea:

    With the pace figures, I can now compare any two races together, they are a combination of the standard times, lbs. per length, going allowances and distances etc.

    In a nutshell the races that come out with a pace figure of

    +10

    , this is the minimum standard for a true run race.

    What would you learn from watching videos where the pace of a race was say

    -44

    , you could save yourself a lot of time and effort this way especially if you study form by viewing videos.

    When I came to work out the pace figures from Dundalk last Friday, not one of the races made the minimum standard of

    +10

    .

    Dundalk (AW) (IRE)
    01-Feb-13
    06:20 Pencil Hill 6f

    5

    06:50 Pique Sous 2m

    -14

    07:20 Typhoon Lily 7f

    -1

    07:50 Cookie Crumbles 7f

    7

    08:20 La Belle Maison 1m

    1

    08:50 Cash Or Casualty 1m

    6

    09:20 Atmospheric High 1m2½f

    -5

    Looking at the above sample, the fastest pace on the night was

    Cookie Crumbles +7

    8)

    #428578
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    AW going allowance for Wolverhampton 4/2/13 was

    +0.13

    (standard).

    Wolverhampton speed figures:

    (No WFA)
    02:45 Party Palace 1m6f 0.13

    42

    03:20 Bailadeira 5f 0.13

    51

    03:50 Classic Colori 7f 0.13

    69

    04:25 The Guru Of Gloom 7f 0.13

    64

    04:55 Faithful Ruler 1m½f 0.13

    7

    05:25 Wordiness 1m4f 0.13

    65

    05:55 Wyborne 1m4f 0.13

    54

    top ten speed figures:

    (3yo+)
    Wolverhampton (AW) 04-Feb-13 Haftohaf 10/11F

    70

    (Class 5)
    Wolverhampton (AW) 04-Feb-13 Classic Colori (IRE) 7/4F

    69

    (Class 6)
    Wolverhampton (AW) 04-Feb-13 Azrael 7/2

    67

    (Class 6)
    Wolverhampton (AW) 04-Feb-13 Saharia (IRE) 5/2

    65

    (Class 6)
    Wolverhampton (AW) 04-Feb-13 Wordiness 5/2J

    65

    (Class 6)
    Wolverhampton (AW) 04-Feb-13 The Guru Of Gloom (IRE) 16/1

    64

    (Class 5)
    Wolverhampton (AW) 04-Feb-13 Zing Wing 7/2

    60

    (Class 6)
    Wolverhampton (AW) 04-Feb-13 Frontier Fighter 4/1

    59

    (Class 5)
    Wolverhampton (AW) 04-Feb-13 Day Of Destiny (IRE) 5/1

    59

    (Class 6)
    Wolverhampton (AW) 04-Feb-13 Easydoesit (IRE) 6/4F

    54

    (Class 6)
    Wolverhampton (AW) 04-Feb-13 Methaaly (IRE) 9/1

    54

    (Class 6)
    Wolverhampton (AW) 04-Feb-13 Showboating (IRE) 7/1

    54

    (Class 5)
    Wolverhampton (AW) 04-Feb-13 Wyborne EvensF

    54

    (Class 5)

    No improver’s to note:

    Yesterday’s pace figures:

    02:45 Party Palace 1m6f

    -7

    03:20 Bailadeira 5f

    +4

    03:50 Classic Colori 7f

    +12

    04:25 The Guru Of Gloom 7f

    +17

    04:55 Faithful Ruler 1m½f

    -40

    05:25 Wordiness 1m4f

    +17

    05:55 Wyborne 1m4f

    -3

    Above is a sample of my new pace figures from yesterday’s meeting.

    Provisionally I am using

    +10

    as the minimum standard for a true run race, so if I was studying video form, I would only concentrate on the races in the 3.50

    +12

    , 4.25

    +17

    and 5.25

    +17

    8)

    Now that I have updated the pace figures for all the AW races run this year, I will be looking at the data to see if the minimum standard I have set for a true run race of

    +10

    is correct.

    As this is a new project, who knows how it might turn out :D

    #428596
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    I just went through all the winners pace figures for this year and my provisional true run race minimum standard of

    +10

    looks to be spot on 8)

    Looking at my all weather speed figures, on the top of the list is

    Ballista

    who achieved his speed figure of

    98

    on the 17th Nov 2012 at lingfield, the pace figure for the race was

    +26

    , which is

    16lbs

    above the true pace minimum standard set at

    +10

    .

    The fastest pace horse this year is

    Piscean +46

    who’s top speed figure is

    97

    , how impressive does it make this horse look 8)

    If the two horses were every to run against each other wouldn’t

    Piscean

    run the legs of

    Ballista

    , his pace is

    20lbs

    faster :D

    Pace figures: http://tinyurl.com/ayf8pjt

    Food for thought :shock:

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    AW going allowance for Southwell 5/2/13 was

    -0.01

    (standard).

    Southwell speed figures:

    (No WFA)
    01:40 Peace In Our Time 1m3f -0.01

    53

    02:10 Hellbender 7f -0.01

    58

    02:40 Stand Guard 1m4f -0.01

    81

    03:10 Repetition 6f -0.01

    44

    03:40 Aubrietia 6f -0.01

    72

    04:10 Poetic Verse 1m -0.01

    47

    04:40 Discay 1m4f -0.01

    38

    Top ten speed figures:

    (3yo+)
    Southwell (AW) 05-Feb-13 Stand Guard 8/15F

    81

    (Class 6) Claimer
    Southwell (AW) 05-Feb-13 Aubrietia 9/2F

    72

    (Class 4)
    Southwell (AW) 05-Feb-13 Burnhope 8/1

    63

    (Class 4)
    Southwell (AW) 05-Feb-13 Activate 5/1

    61

    (Class 6) Claimer
    Southwell (AW) 05-Feb-13 Sans Loi (IRE) 5/1

    61

    (Class 4)
    Southwell (AW) 05-Feb-13 Hellbender (IRE) 12/1

    58

    (Class 6)
    Southwell (AW) 05-Feb-13 Bandstand 11/2

    57

    (Class 4)
    Southwell (AW) 05-Feb-13 Kashmiri Star 6/1

    55

    (Class 6)
    Southwell (AW) 05-Feb-13 Peace In Our Time 5/1J

    53

    (Class 6)
    Southwell (AW) 05-Feb-13 Waking Warrior 11/2

    50

    (Class 4)

    No Improver’s to note:

    Southwell pace figures:

    01:40 Peace In Our Time 1m3f

    -18

    02:10 Hellbender 7f

    0

    02:40 Stand Guard 1m4f

    26

    03:10 Repetition 6f

    -5

    03:40 Aubrietia 6f

    28

    04:10 Poetic Verse 1m

    -14

    04:40 Discay 1m4f

    -18

    Pace figures: http://tinyurl.com/ayf8pjt

    Aubrietia

    who won today has 3 pace entries at the top of my pace list.
    6th

    +28

    10th

    +28

    14th

    +26

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    AW going allowance for 6/2/13.
    Southwell

    +0.06

    (standard)
    Kempton

    +0.19

    (standard to fast)

    Southwell speed figures:

    (No WFA)
    01:30 Our Ivor 1m 0.06

    44

    02:00 Marshall Art 6f 0.06

    59

    02:30 Misleading Promise 1m 0.06

    40

    03:05 Lakota Ghost 1m4f 0.06

    65

    03:40 Caledonia Prince 1m 0.06

    59

    04:15 Naalatt 1m 0.06

    45

    04:45 Scribe 2m 0.06

    41

    Kempton speed figures:

    (No WFA)
    05:05 Burnt Cream 5f 0.19

    62

    05:35 Lytham 1m2f 0.19

    50

    06:05 Windforpower 5f 0.19

    62

    06:35 Golden Causeway 7f 0.19

    24

    07:05 Ashamaly 7f 0.19

    60

    07:35 Crystal Peaks 1m4f 0.19

    52

    08:05 Captain Kendall 6f 0.19

    64

    Top ten speed figures:

    (3yo+)
    Southwell (AW) 06-Feb-13 Lakota Ghost (USA) 11/4

    65

    (Class 6)
    Kempton (AW) 06-Feb-13 Jake The Snake (IRE) 20/1

    65

    (Class 5)
    Kempton (AW) 06-Feb-13 Captain Kendall (IRE) 11/8F

    64

    (Class 5)
    Kempton (AW) 06-Feb-13 Burnt Cream 11/2

    62

    (Class 7)
    Kempton (AW) 06-Feb-13 Miserere Mei (IRE) 9/2

    62

    (Class 7)
    Kempton (AW) 06-Feb-13 Windforpower (IRE) 6/1

    62

    (Class 5)
    Kempton (AW) 06-Feb-13 Ashamaly 7/2

    60

    (Class 4)
    Southwell (AW) 06-Feb-13 Marshall Art 7/1

    59

    (Class 6)
    Southwell (AW) 06-Feb-13 Caledonia Prince 9/4F

    59

    (Class 6)
    Kempton (AW) 06-Feb-13 Cincinnati Kit 7/2

    59

    (Class 7)
    Kempton (AW) 06-Feb-13 Marvelino 7/2

    59

    (Class 5)

    Improver’s to note:

    3.05 Southwell

    Lakota Ghost +6

    5.05 Kempton

    Burnt Cream +17

    ,

    Miserere Mei +14

    ,

    Deveze +10

    ,

    Cincinnati Kit +9

    and

    Red Ramesses +6

    .

    The 5.05 at Kempton was a real eye opener when I came to compile the speed figures for the race, even with the

    +0.19

    standard to fast

    going allowance

    Burnt Cream

    is so far ahead of her official handicap mark, she has to be backed on her next run 8)

    To get a handle on the pace figures that I now produce along with my speed figures, I was interested in what pace figure

    Frankel

    achieved in the

    Queen Anne Stakes

    at

    Royal Ascot

    as his speed figure that day was the highest I have ever awarded at

    128

    , his pace figure for the race was

    +35

    :D

    Yesterday’s pace figures:

    Kempton:

    05:05 Burnt Cream 5f

    +12

    05:35 Lytham 1m2f

    -5

    06:05 Windforpower 5f

    +14

    06:35 Golden Causeway 7f

    -28

    07:05 Ashamaly 7f

    +3

    07:35 Crystal Peaks 1m4f

    -7

    08:05 Captain Kendall 6f

    +11

    Southwell:

    01:30 Our Ivor 1m

    -2

    02:00 Marshall Art 6f

    +7

    02:30 Misleading Promise 1m

    -11

    03:05 Lakota Ghost 1m4f

    +7

    03:40 Caledonia Prince 1m

    +11

    04:15 Naalatt 1m

    -2

    04:45 Scribe 2m

    -11

    The pace figure calculations are still

    work in progress

    , the minimum standard for a true run race is

    +10

    8)

    As they have the going allowance and my lbs per length figures build in etc, the idea behind them is to be able to compare two different races from different racecourses when assessing form 8)

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