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  • #502848
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    That is misleading, the last paragraph is also about FF not NMH.

    #502924
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    No More Heroes – More like No More Hope.

    #502926
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    Can see him still going for AB. The winner and McKinley going Neptune and now, sadly Tell Us More might be Supreme. Sadly hammered into him ew Neptune, just had a sneaky go at 25-1 with betfair on TUM in the Supreme. 1 point.

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    Disappointing from No More Heroes today, but I don’t believe that was his true running for a minute. Whether he was below par due to drying ground or some other reason I don’t know, but he was never travelling or jumping today.

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    I didn’t write the above?

    Sorry, not sure what happened there. I think there was an issue with the number of quotes within quotes you are allowed to have, and when I deleted one of the quotes, a paragraph got nested within the wrong quote. It should have read as replying to the other poster.

    Apologies for that technical glitch there.

    I have amended my post to correct the issue.

    Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.

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    Nick Williams has confirmed that Tea For Two is likely to go for this race. He also stated that the horse will have another race in February.

    I am assuming the race formerly called The Prestige at Haydock over 3 miles would be the logical target?

    He’s still 20/1 and after No More Heroes effort today I would be worried about him now. I can’t have Black Hercules at 6/1 for this based on so little form but knowing the way things go he’ll probably end up ridiculously short and hose in on the day to knowing winks and nods from the shrewdies.

    Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.

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    Serious question.
    7 or 8 years ago before we had the Albert Bartlett, horses that disappointed in Neptune trials….rather than suggesting they looked good prospects for the 3 miler…how did we describe them?
    Can I suggest….slow?

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    Black Hercules at 6/1 for this based on so little form but knowing the way things go he’ll probably end up ridiculously short and hose in on the day to knowing winks and nods from the shrewdies.

    http://www.sherv.net/cm/emoticons/smile/happy-nodding-smiley-face-emoticon.gif

    Nice horse that Black Hercules :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink:

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    Disappointing from No More Heroes today, but I don’t believe that was his true running for a minute. Whether he was below par due to drying ground or some other reason I don’t know, but he was never travelling or jumping today.

    Unsurprisingly Gordon Elliott said in today’s RP that No More Heroes scoped badly after the race, and that Cooper said he was never travelling or jumping, but he didn’t need Cooper to tell him that.

    I’m glad a valid reason for the poor run has arisen and I’ve now viewed the effort in a different light. He was only beaten 7.5 lengths giving the winner five pounds, misses practically every hurdle and never travelled with any zest. That’s not the real No More Heroes and to get as close as he did was a big run in the circumstances.

    I’m not sure I buy that he won’t like better ground as his pedigree would suggest otherwise. His Navan form is as good as any staying novice I’ve seen and as such I’ve gone in again at 14/1. A gift of a price in my opinion.

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    Disappointing from No More Heroes today, but I don’t believe that was his true running for a minute. Whether he was below par due to drying ground or some other reason I don’t know, but he was never travelling or jumping today.

    Unsurprisingly Gordon Elliott said in today’s RP that No More Heroes scoped badly after the race, and that Cooper said he was never travelling or jumping, but he didn’t need Cooper to tell him that.

    I’m glad a valid reason for the poor run has arisen and I’ve now viewed the effort in a different light. He was only beaten 7.5 lengths giving the winner five pounds, misses practically every hurdle and never travelled with any zest. That’s not the real No More Heroes and to get as close as he did was a big run in the circumstances.

    I’m not sure I buy that he won’t like better ground as his pedigree would suggest otherwise. His Navan form is as good as any staying novice I’ve seen and as such I’ve gone in again at 14/1. A gift of a price in my opinion.

    14s would be a gift if we knew for sure a) the scoping was genuine and b) if a) is true, that he fully recovers in the next few weeks and turns up at Cheltenham fighting fit.
    I don’t like backing anything that has not finished close up and in the frame prior to the Festival.
    I am rather sceptical of trainers throwing out the ready made excuses for their charges been beaten, however Elliot does seem a genuine sort of bloke.

    #503151
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    Disappointing from No More Heroes today, but I don’t believe that was his true running for a minute. Whether he was below par due to drying ground or some other reason I don’t know, but he was never travelling or jumping today.

    Unsurprisingly Gordon Elliott said in today’s RP that No More Heroes scoped badly after the race, and that Cooper said he was never travelling or jumping, but he didn’t need Cooper to tell him that.

    I’m glad a valid reason for the poor run has arisen and I’ve now viewed the effort in a different light. He was only beaten 7.5 lengths giving the winner five pounds, misses practically every hurdle and never travelled with any zest. That’s not the real No More Heroes and to get as close as he did was a big run in the circumstances.

    I’m not sure I buy that he won’t like better ground as his pedigree would suggest otherwise. His Navan form is as good as any staying novice I’ve seen and as such I’ve gone in again at 14/1. A gift of a price in my opinion.

    14s would be a gift if we knew for sure a) the scoping was genuine and b) if a) is true, that he fully recovers in the next few weeks and turns up at Cheltenham fighting fit.
    I don’t like backing anything that has not finished close up and in the frame prior to the Festival.
    I am rather sceptical of trainers throwing out the ready made excuses for their charges been beaten, however Elliot does seem a genuine sort of bloke.

    There was definitely something amiss, so I’m inclined to take Elliott at his word. For a relatively inexperienced trainer he is one I have huge respect for with horses going to Cheltenham and he seems to know what he has more often than not. Fingers crossed here anyway.

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    Disappointing from No More Heroes today, but I don’t believe that was his true running for a minute. Whether he was below par due to drying ground or some other reason I don’t know, but he was never travelling or jumping today.

    Unsurprisingly Gordon Elliott said in today’s RP that No More Heroes scoped badly after the race, and that Cooper said he was never travelling or jumping, but he didn’t need Cooper to tell him that.

    I’m glad a valid reason for the poor run has arisen and I’ve now viewed the effort in a different light. He was only beaten 7.5 lengths giving the winner five pounds, misses practically every hurdle and never travelled with any zest. That’s not the real No More Heroes and to get as close as he did was a big run in the circumstances.

    I’m not sure I buy that he won’t like better ground as his pedigree would suggest otherwise. His Navan form is as good as any staying novice I’ve seen and as such I’ve gone in again at 14/1. A gift of a price in my opinion.

    I like No More Heroes too Tommy, I sort of missed the boat with him earlier and, at the time, Tea For Two was the one that tempted me at his odds. Now that No More Heroes is 14/1 I am more interested.

    I reckon Black Hercules is way short odds on actual form and Blaklion seems to have had his limitations exposed on a couple of occasions. There’s a below par effort to forgive but if the horse bounces back he’s great each way at 14/1.

    Whatever happened to the Heroes?

    Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.

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    Would be interested to find out if anyone knows what’s happened to In The Rough. After winning a decent race at Cheltenham in October, he was one of my fancies for this. Heard nothing about him since and is not priced up anywhere.

    Any clues?

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    Talking of

    No More Heroes

    , I saw the following image the other day.

    Hope it’s not an omen for Cheltenham :shock:

    https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=phili … 1280%3B815

    Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.

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    Any thoughts on

    Beast Of Burden

    ? He slammed a useful 140+ stick Mendip Express at Bangor last week.

    He might try the Neptune but looks like a better fit to this race to my eyes.

    #505025
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    I was very impressed with Beast of Burden (2016 RSA winner IMO). After the race Rebecca Curtis said Paul Townend recommended a drop back in trip so the Neptune looks favourite.

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    Talking of No More Heroes, I saw the following image the other day.

    Hope it’s not an omen for Cheltenham :shock:

    https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=phili … 1280%3B815

    The last of the 10/1 dried up today, so it seems punters are willing to wade in despite the above image, which it is rumoured has Michael O’Leary worried. Hopefully the opposition will be crying ‘No more!, Heroes, no more!" :)

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