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I’d be inclined to throw his form from before the Cheltenham run out the window. He looked a different horse that day. A horse who gets beaten in a maiden hurdle at Wexford doesn’t power away from a 139 rated horse like he did. He would have won by 10 lengths handy that day, that would put him around the 150 mark, although strangely he’s rated lower that Deireadh Re. He seems to have found some ‘improvement’ since his first couple of hurdles runs
As we all know horses improve for different reasons and Sea of Thunder without doubt has improved in bundles! If you are willing to ignore his last race (ground) then he must have an outstanding EW chance especially as it is extremely likely that Boston Bob will be heading to the Neptune
As we all know horses improve for different reasons and Sea of Thunder without doubt has improved in bundles! If you are willing to ignore his last race (ground) then he must have an outstanding EW chance especially as it is extremely likely that Boston Bob will be heading to the Neptune
Added to the fact he will definitely run, and connections know how to get one spot on for this – Weapons Amnesty.
You can ignore most of Sea of Thunder’s form. He clearly needs a trip and good ground. I backed him that day at Cheltenham and will defo be on at the Festival.
Charles Byrnes is very much a target trainer.
i.ve backed sea of thunder earlier in the season for this race too.his run in cheltenham was a real improvement in form.he was really well backed that day which is a big positive with this stable.he has won two irish points beating last instalment into fourth in the first of these.(this was last instalment’s first ever run).his best form is in better ground over a trip which he’ll get in this race.the x factor for this horse is his trainer who knows what it takes to win this race and is certainly a trainer who knows how to have one ready. with boston bob likely to run in the neptune i see mount benbulben as the main danger
Having backed Boston Bob for this before the news on Fngal Bay’s potential withdrawal from the Neptune, my nerves have been on edge ever since! However Boston Bob’s constant drifting and contraction in price in the market for both the Albert Bartlett and Neptune has left me flummoxed as to which race he will go for.
I think BB would win whichever race he turns up for, but feel the AB would be a greater test of what it seems is his strong suit…stamina. Fingers crossed for some good news on this front.
Rumours are getting stronger that Boston Bob is heading to the Albert, maybe Mr Mullins is a trends man after all and realises it will take some horse to break the 0/38 7yo loser stat for the Neptune
Rather makes life tougher for Sea of Thunder though
Rumours are getting stronger that Boston Bob is heading to the Albert, maybe Mr Mullins is a trends man after all and realises it will take some horse to break the 0/38 7yo loser stat for the Neptune
Rather makes life tougher for Sea of Thunder though
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Boston Bob AB bound.
I’d say I’m surprised but I think as far as this year goes nothing seems to surprise me anymore.
Boston Bob AB bound.
I’ll be totally amazed if he is
1. Mullins can’t win The Neptune with any of his other enrties.
2. BB is untried at the 3 miles
3. He’ll know how good some of the other Irish entries are in the AlBart, better than they are in The Neptune
4. What Willie Mullins tells the press a week before the race must be taken with a huge shovel of salt.WHere has this info come from?
From the betting & several, several comments from jockeys & trainers at preview nights.
1) Of course Mullins can win the Neptune with his other entries. He has Sous Le Cieux & Make Your Mark. By running BB in the AB, he can win all 3 novice hurdles.
2) So is Fingal Bay. But you need your head tested if you think they won’t stay 3m.
3) Really?
4) I agree, but the betting is telling. Started the day 7/1 on Betfair for the AB. Into 3/1 by the end of the night. He also started 3/1 for the Neptune and ended up at 6/1. If you look now, you’ll see money wanting to back at 11, 17 and 19 for the Neptune and 6.4 waiting to be laid, whereas 4.7 to back for the AB and 5.3 to lay. He was also matched at 20 for the Neptune yesterday.
From the betting & several, several comments from jockeys & trainers at preview nights.
1) Of course Mullins can win the Neptune with his other entries. He has Sous Le Cieux & Make Your Mark. By running BB in the AB, he can win all 3 novice hurdles.
2) So is Fingal Bay. But you need your head tested if you think they won’t stay 3m.
3) Really?
4) I agree, but the betting is telling. Started the day 7/1 on Betfair for the AB. Into 3/1 by the end of the night. He also started 3/1 for the Neptune and ended up at 6/1. If you look now, you’ll see money wanting to back at 11, 17 and 19 for the Neptune and 6.4 waiting to be laid, whereas 4.7 to back for the AB and 5.3 to lay. He was also matched at 20 for the Neptune yesterday.
1. Aye THAT’LL be right, one looks very likely (Boston Bob), Two is streching it, Three? You are having a laugh.
2. My head’s fine thanks, I’m not saying he won’t stay 3 miles, Fingal Bay? My understanding is he misses The Festival, again, you must know something I dont?
3. Sword Of Destiny, Sea Of Thunder, Mount Benbulben, Ipsos Du Burlais for starters
4. So there’s no chance these betfair moves are being led by a rumour coming out of Muine Beag. I suggest you take a "New Approach" to the way you read Betfair moves or you might end up getting Kicked in your KingsWell he’s got Midnight Game for the Supreme, Sous Le Cieux and maybe Make Your Mark for the Neptune & Boston Bob for the Albert Bartlett. So yes, he does have a chance of winning all 3.
No, you misunderstood my point about Fingal Bay. He was being aimed for the 2m 5f race but everybody and his dog knows that he’ll stay 3 miles and that he didn’t have the gears for the Neptune. Same applies to Boston Bob I think.
Well Sous Le Cieux is now top price 9s for the Neptune & you won’t get bigger than 3s for Boston Bob for the AB. Think I’m reading too much into it now?
Zarkava
You are very quick to quote stats when it suits your argument
FYI
Willie Mullins has had the grand total of 3 winners in all three novice races combined run this century, now he’s going to win all 3 this year.And you’ve got the brass neck to slag off Dermot Weld
Shame on you
How many more is that than Weld’s total?
But yes, shame on me. Can you feel my shame seeping through the internet? You should be able to. Touch the screen. Did you get a shock when you did it?
Willie Mullins has 3 horses very near the front of the betting in all 3 novice hurdles. Therefore he has a chance of winning all 3. Yes or no?
Boston Bob 3/1, Sous Le Cieux 9/1, Midnight Game 10/1. 439/1.
Wanna lay me a tenner?
How many more is that than Weld’s total?
Three, now how many losers have they both had in the same races in the same period?
Galileos Choice will bring Weld’s % up to at least that of Willie Mullins. IMO, that’s all, no stats no rating, just what I’ve seen on the racecourse
Don’t get me wrong, I rate both trainers highly, my point was to draw attention….with humour, not malice…to your hypocracy in quoting stats and TS ratings as the "be all and end all" of pinpointing winners, but only when it suits your specific arguementBut yes, shame on me. Can you feel my shame seeping through the internet? You should be able to. Touch the screen. Did you get a shock when you did it?
Aren’t you aware that "sarcasm is the lowest form of wit" Oscar Wilde
Willie Mullins has 3 horses very near the front of the betting in all 3 novice hurdles. Therefore he has a chance of winning all 3. Yes or no?
If you go by the betting, yes> If on the other hand, like me, you go by what your eyes tell you, no, not this year.
Boston Bob 3/1, Sous Le Cieux 9/1, Midnight Game 10/1. 439/1.
Wanna lay me a tenner?
With appologies to Reggie Perrin "I didn’t get where I am today by risking £4390 to gain a tenner" but good luck with your bet, if you put your money where your opinions are , that is?
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