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  • #14865
    quadrilla
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    A runner yesterday. PUN 16:55.

    Is it :

    AD IDEM – ( Declaration PR )
    AD IDEM (GB) – ( Database RP and RI )
    AD IDEM (IRE) – ( Declaration and Database SportingLife )

    Answer – ALL OF THEM. :mrgreen:

    Legal Definition :
    in agreement

    Example :
    The parties were ad idem on this important point.

    #291669
    quadrilla
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    Hi All

    I did’nt really expect a reply. :lol:

    However, I consider this lack of accuracy the same as a roulette ball stopping at 32 red and the croupier saying it’s black or being given the four of diamonds in Black Jack, to be to told it’s actually the Ace of Clubs.

    Surely the racing industry can get the runner name correct?

    #291671
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    An ironically named example of what happens when you have different sources of entries and different sources of results.

    Unless you can persuade domestic authorities always to use their own breeding suffix such instances will happen repeatedly.

    The ideal would be a worldwide convention covering the entire entries, declarations and results process for thoroughbred racing, including jockeys and trainers having the same style regardless of which country they were operating in and agreed metrics for measuring distances.

    Good luck with that.

    #291745
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    Hi quadrilla.

    What do you find RI really useful for?

    Got it a couple of days ago, but haven’t started using it yet. Not sure why I’ve got it!

    #291897
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    Hi quadrilla.

    What do you find RI really useful for?

    Got it a couple of days ago, but haven’t started using it yet. Not sure why I’ve got it!

    I would love to say that I find RI useful.

    Currently RI is an outdated, inaccurate, simple " what if " fun timewaster. Falls over and fails at the slightest request of complexity.

    #292292
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    I used it for the first time today.

    I like the draw analysis, because of the ability to adjust number of runners, going, type of race, and timescale. Used it for the first race, at Leicester today. Chucked a fiver at each of the high draws, and nearly got the monthly subscription back in one hit. Would have done if I’d gone for the betfair SP instead of taking a price of about 18.

    I’ll also find it useful for lots of sire-related stuff.

    Updated it at lunchtime, and lost today’s racecards! Replaced by tomorrow’s! :shock:

    Looking at a racecard is a bit of a culture shock, as it is full of numbers, and I don’t know what they represent.

    The thing I most want to find out is a rundown by trainer of how their horses fare when they have won lto. Tried running the query a couple of times, but aborted it. Not sure how many hours or days it would take to complete.

    I’ve already exported all of the data for 2009, but I haven’t tried importing it into a spreadsheet yet.

    #292468
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    There’s nothing I like more than doing a bit of gratuitous aftertiming to annoy people. Here’s me in action on the betfair forum, though in my defence people there and here knew that I had only just started using draw analysis, and I didn’t know whether it would work. Still don’t.

    Me2 25 Apr 17:29
    You ain’t gonna believe me, and if you do, you won’t like it and I’ll proudly be dispatched to the aftertiming thread, but I’ve just had £20 on the last winner at Bath @ 60. Backed all the horses drawn 4-7. :0

    . . . .

    Me2 25 Apr 17:39
    I got this from Raceform Interactive, as mentioned earlier, I’ve only just got it.

    Bath 5f 161yds
    13+ runners
    2007 onwards
    were the criteria I used.

    Results for draws 1 to 17

    2-25
    1-25
    0-24
    4-25
    4-25
    2-22
    4-24
    0-24
    1-22
    0-25
    3-25
    1-25
    0-21
    2-19
    1-19
    1-15
    0-12

    Winner came down the outside, so it looks like I just got lucky. Jammy git.

    #294509
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    HOPE SHE DOES (USA) runs today as HOPESHEDOES (USA)

    Hope that she does :D

    #295097
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    The

    ONLY

    high profile Trainer with different names.

    Sporting Life : Saeed Suroor
    ATR : S bin Suroor
    Racing Post : Saeed Bin Suroor

    #296541
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    Sunday May 23 2010
    Longchamp 13:35

    Distance
    ========

    Racing Post 1m 2f
    Sporting Life 1m 1f 207y

    Which winning post will the winning times be taken from ? :lol:

    #296542
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    The time to worry is when one’s sold to race in Hong Kong and then assumes a completely different name, think someone mentioned South Easter the other day.
    Surely what’s good enough for the rest of us should be good enough for Hong Kong rather than allowing them to change horses names willy nilly.

    #299810
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    Thursday June 10 2010
    Leopardstown 20:05

    Sandymount Lady (IRE)
    FORM 2350-61

    Should this read 5430-611 ?

    One for Matron’s "First Favourite" thread, if he included Irish meetings. I’ve check the "how to read the card help" on both SportingLife and RP sites – nothing mentioned about flat or NH ONLY for Form. Mis-leading ?

    #299833
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    The Chinese are very superstitious about names, hence why so many of the horses that go to Hong Kong have their names changed. Seeing as they don’t breed in HK, pretty much every horse there is imported of racing age and therefore is already named. Some of it may also have to do with how the names sound phonetically in Chinese.

    #299857
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    One for Matron’s "First Favourite" thread, if he included Irish meetings.

    7th – another "First Favourite" hits the dirt :D :D :D

    #300047
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    Another "First Favourites" missed. Not easy to find from the form.

    Aintree 18:00
    6/P111-1 Flower Haven 3rd.

    And while I’m at it.

    Navan 18:20
    5/000-11 Lough Mist (IRE) 2nd.

    #301472
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    Another missed.

    Ascot 14:30


    "Zebedee must be respected as the sole Richard Hannon representative but he will probably need to have improved from his last run. That was here at Ascot which will serve him well and the extra furlong isn’t expected to pose a problem but he was workmanlike in victory and doesn’t look one of the yard’s leading juveniles."

    Can anyone tell me where this " extra furlong " comes from ? :roll:

    #301474
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    Another missed.

    Ascot 14:30


    "Zebedee must be respected as the sole Richard Hannon representative but he will probably need to have improved from his last run. That was here at Ascot which will serve him well and the extra furlong isn’t expected to pose a problem but he was workmanlike in victory and doesn’t look one of the yard’s leading juveniles."

    Can anyone tell me where this " extra furlong " comes from ? :roll:

    Ladbrokes too have made a similar goof on the 2.30 …..
    "Excel Bolt seems sure to improve for the sixth furlong having been off the bridle from some way out at Musselburgh last time."

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