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    Richard88
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    I’d be all for banning more groups of football ‘supporters’ who have a thuggish element to them. It’s a shame for the sensible ones who just want to watch the match but maybe things would change. Don’t see why there should be fighting and other crime on our streets for the sake of a football match. Same goes for banning English hooligans from other countries and not inflicting them on innocent people elsewhere. You don’t get this surrounding any other sport. Don’t get me wrong, I like football and am in the vast majority who just wants to see the game. I just despise the violent element of some ‘fans’.

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    nwalton
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    thanks for reply Richard

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    Richard88
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    No worries, always nice when people engage even if we do disagree :good:

    Do you have a link about the protests you mentioned please? Purely because I like to read up on such things for myself, thanks.

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    nwalton
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    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ce86vym0pyzo

    sorry bit late with post Richard

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    nwalton
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    #1742745
    Richard88
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    Many thanks.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cg435gg66gpo

    Yes it’s now been rescinded but what a world we live in where a woman can be fined £150 for pouring the dregs of her coffee down the drain whilst water companies pay themselves multi million pound bonuses for dumping s*** in our rivers and seas.

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    moehat
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    I’ve only just heard about this! I’d have done the same; hate the thought of putting liquid into a rubbish bin. Not only was the fine wrong but the poor woman felt intimidated by the people who followed her.

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    Avatar photoPurwell
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    There are so many strange things to this story.
    Why were there three environment officers in the vicinity of the bus stop? Why did any of them think it was necessary to issue the lady with a fine? What the hell was she supposed to do with the dregs of her coffee?
    Has nobody in this God forsaken country got any bloody brains anymore?

    I've stumbled on the side of twelve misty mountains
    I've walked and I crawled on six crooked highways
    #1742762
    Richard88
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    Apparently you’re supposed to pour it in the bin, presumably leaving the enforcement officers’ colleague who later empties said bin to get soaked by the dregs of everyone’s coffee when the bag splits.

    I’m generally supportive of councils fining people for littering, parking contraventions and driving in bus lanes etc (doing so is entirely voluntary, don’t do it, no fine) but this is lunacy. Particularly when, as I say, water companies can do what the hell they like and get rewarded handsomely for it.

    As you say Purwell, it does seem odd. What are three enforcement officers doing hanging around bus stops together? There can’t be that much environmental ‘crime’ going on there that it’s truly worth their while.

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    pilgarlic
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    Caerphilly by election for the Senedd today. 33-1 available for Labour to retain the seat.

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    Avatar photoDrone
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    Were the enforcement officers employed by a private security firm? If so it’s possible that they’re paid – or get a bonus for – ‘results’ viz number of fines handed out. Similar to over-zealous private wheel-clamping firms pouncing on cars deemed to be parked illegally.

    It seems likely that disposing of drink dregs into a gutter at a bus stop prior to boarding is a not uncommon practice (what is wrong with that?) so they might be told to target them if they want to earn ‘easy money’

    A bizarre story particularly when considering what other foul pavement and road detritus gets washed down drains: dog excrement and tyre rubber to name but two.

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    Avatar photoGladiateur
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    Plaid Cymru have shown that taking the opposing view to racist bigots pays dividends. Who’d have thunk it?

    Will Starmer belatedly learn the lesson?

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    By all accounts the Plaid candidate is a thoroughly decent guy too, does a lot of volunteering, helping out in the local community etc. Sounds like something a patriotic person would do to me.

    Labour’s centre-left and left supporters didn’t all suddenly become right wing and back Reform, they voted for an actual left wing option who also knows and cares about his local area and Wales as a whole.

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    Johnt4124
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    Well they sure did not vote for Labour.

    #1742917
    Avatar photoGladiateur
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    Nor should they have.

    Anyone who claims to be left of centre has no business supporting the Labour Party in its current incarnation.

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    nwalton
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    maybe we should all vote Sultana and corbyn as they seem really sensible

    I am far from right wing(contary to what some think on here) but I am very concerned with the way our country is changing and the speed it is. I just want the best for my childrens children and for them to be safe and not have to move away from their roots due to mass immigration. Please dont tell me you dont have to move out, look at London where i first came from (the east end son of a dock worker) then Harlow new town, you go there and see how that has changed in such a small space of time . I am sorry for having concerns and thats all it is , not RW

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    nwalton
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    I see Lucy Powell went stright after Starmer telling him to soften his approach on immigration, christ could we get any softer?

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