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    nwalton
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    you mention Sheffield Wednesday I am a Chelsea fan from way back but always had a soft spot for Sheffield Wedneday as they were the first team i got from a typhoo tea coupons, which you use to send off(christ showing my age now :negative: )

    Like you say it is depressing about good and bad fans but it just seems to me that this ban is a political move, i could be wrong (again)

    #1742616
    Avatar photoDrone
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    Wandering away down memory lane…I still have the autographs of Tommy Craig, Jim McCalliog, John Ritchie, Peter Springett and Gerry Young who visited our school in 1969

    Names all but forgotten except by die-hard Owlers, though Everton fans of a certain age will remember fondly Gerry Young, as it was his defensive mistake that resulted in their winning goal in the 1966 Cup Final

    Jim McCalliog was capped by Scotland, and many years later I bumped into him in a pub in Wetherby where he was landlord. He didn’t remember me :yes:

    #1742617
    nwalton
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    Jim played for us as well very good player, Peter brother of Ron another goalkeeper at Hillsbourgh. I couldn’t remember the lad who made that mistake against Everton, probably first final I watched was you lot not 2-0 up?

    #1742626
    Blackcountry Kid
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    Try listening to the local MP who wants them banned, not just what he says, but the tone he uses, his facial expressions and body language.
    good luck to all

    #1742630
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    Yep, they were 2-0 up before losing 3-2

    Ron Springett was in the 1966 World Cup squad along with Chelsea’s Peter Bonetti, though can’t remember if either of them replaced Gordon Banks in any matches

    Ron and brother Peter were involved in an unusual transfer ‘swop’ arrangement: Ron from Owls to QPR in return for Peter from QPR to Owls

    Did I say that I’d little to no interest in football?

    Best clarify that I no longer have any interest in football, though was a fanboy when er…a boy :yes:

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    #1742675
    nwalton
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    Well done MTAV keeping your fans safe :good:

    #1742676
    nwalton
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    Drone i use to go home and away watching Chelsea, now days i struggle to turn it on to watch a game, it seems so sterile and lacks passion, or maybe i am just old now.

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    Shame on Maccabi Tel Aviv for denying their peaceful, football-loving supporters the opportunity to visit England’s second city and a Premier League stadium, by giving in to terrorism.

    It’s a blatant case of denying the freedom so valued by the right.

    #1742678
    nwalton
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    shame on the corbyn mob (who were an utter disgrace in parliament yeaterday on this debate) and the police here who could not guareentee travelling ‘fans’ their safety.

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    Shame on the Conservatives, whose fourteen years of stripping back public funding, in order to provide tax breaks to their rich mates, has meant that local police forces are unable to do their basic job, which is to guarantee public safety.

    #1742680
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    yep totally agree the tories were awful but this lot are ten times worse, just my opinion of course
    Police dont police anymore as i alluded to had many a good hiding by the old bill back in the day (probably 50% deserved) but now days they are far to soft for my liking and people shout brutality for the slightest thing.

    #1742682
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    A good article, particularly the emphasis on the ill-considered bandwagon jumping of politicians

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/oct/21/standing-with-maccabis-football-hooligans-against-local-police-is-that-what-patriotism-looks-like-now

    We are expected to believe in the existence of a hostile antisemitic conspiracy co-hatched by the police and the residents of Birmingham

    Indeed, the decision wasn’t antisemitic; it was just the latest example of violent football fans being banned from a ground

    Anyway, this whiffy breeze whipped-up into a noxious storm in a teacup has predictably blown itself out

    #1742688
    Blackcountry Kid
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    from a article written by Ian Austin (former MP and now Lord Austin) published Oct 18
    That’s why, as someone adopted and raised by a loving Jewish father, I’ve never been so appalled as I am by the decision of West Midlands Police to ban fans from Maccabi Tel Aviv from visiting my club for an away match next month.
    That a local ‘Independent’ MP Ayoub Khan, worked with disgraced ex-Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn to organise a petition to have the match called off is a stain on the game and our country.
    Local cleric Asrar Rashid, meanwhile, handed out an ‘Islamic ruling’ and warned disgracefully:’When the Tel Aviv fans come to Birmingham in a few weeks, we will not show them rahma [mercy].’
    We should be clear about what has taken place.A group of fans have been banned from attending a match on the basis of their nationality – or perhaps their race.This is anti-Jewish racism straight out of the 1930’s.
    I know from personal experience that West Midlands Police can appear less than impartial.When, last year I called the proscribed terrorist group Hamas an ‘Islamist death cult’ on X, I was stunned to find myself investigated for a so-called ‘non crime hate incident’.It was , I was told by a senior officer only a change in rules that prevented it being logged as such on my ‘police record’.
    good luck to all

    #1742690
    Richard88
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    You do not have to be Israeli or Jewish to be a Maccabi fan. You can be Israeli or Jewish and be a Villa fan. Nobody has been banned due to their nationality, religion or ethnicity.

    Violent thugs can be and sometimes are banned from away fixtures. Doesn’t happen all that often but there are numerous examples down the years of teams from various countries having their fans banned. As Drone notes, it almost always passes without further comment.

    Besides, I thought we wanted to keep large groups of foreign men, some of whom may be criminals, out of the country?

    #1742691
    nwalton
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    So Richard will we (some police federations and independent MP’s) want a ban the two sides fans I mentioned from setting foot into the country? sorry i am not buying it that the ban was not becaise they were gans of a jewish football team (at that the vast majority are jewish)but violent hooligans

    #1742700
    nwalton
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    :wacko: :wacko: UKIP march in Tower hamlets banned on saturday because of the locals feeling threatend but the mayor of Tower hamlets Lutfur Raham said their peaceful diversity march can go ahead

    Well what am I going to do on saturday :unsure: Dont tell me this is not wrong

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