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  • #1749009
    Avatar photoHe Didnt Like Ground
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    Ah Boom and bust , the good old Tory strategy

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    #1749488
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    Starmer once again shows why everyone hates him:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy4qgvwxp08o

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    If we hadn’t left the EU we wouldn’t be so beholden to America that we struggle to speak out against them.

    #1749499
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    Starmer should be able to speak the truth in relation to international law (he is a lawyer, after all) without the backing of the EU or anyone else.

    He has lost the “red wall” by not being hardline/racist enough (nobody ever can be) and traditional Labour voters by being too spineless to stand up for his principles in the face of economic might.

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    Starmer is in an impossible position, largely of his own making.

    On the one hand, he can’t really support what America has done. The Labour Left views Venezuela as a model country and beyond criticism. He risks making himself even more unpopular in the party if he doesn’t condemn outright what has happened.

    On the other hand, he can’t really afford to antagonise Trump more than he already has. Although he is already viewed negatively by the administration, so I am not sure what more he has to lose.

    It is no surprise he wasn’t consulted. Trump clearly doesn’t trust him. Why would he, after Starmer campaigned so openly for Harris and after Lammy’s comments about him?

    These student politicians, so happy when they are in Opposition and feeling good about themselves on protest marches, are finding that being in government is a lot more difficult. It wasn’t wise to antagonise Trump when there was every likelihood they were going to have to work with him.

    This is what Trump really thinks of Starmer. Don’t anyone try to pretend it wasn’t a calculated snub:

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    Sky Sports often had to mute the sound during the World Darts Championship when yet another chorus of “Keir Starmer’s A W*nker” broke out. After 9pm, they didn’t even bother to mute it.

    #1749524
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    You have to play to Trumps ego , akin to how Wilson did with Nixon , Trump wants/needs to be loved , Nixon for all his bravado needed it , Wilson tickled Nixon’s chin , taking money but keeping our troops out of Vietnam , we all know this is about oil , Starmer for his faults is doing his job regardless of what others think , Thatcher for her faults was the same , This is a good example of the real Nixon , Wilson saw it and used it , he got 100s of millions of Americans to vote for him while feeling he wasn’t liked and he didn’t like people ….

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    Starmer is in an impossible position, largely of his own making.

    Yes, he’s trying to please everyone and instead ends alienates them. I am not a political strategy expert by any means but trying to appease a block of right wing voters who will never vote for you and a largely right wing media who, to nobody’s surprise, continue to write negative headlines whatever they do was rather stupid. Is it any wonder people are looking at alternatives on both left and right?

    These student politicians, so happy when they are in Opposition and feeling good about themselves on protest marches, are finding that being in government is a lot more difficult.

    There’s another party finding out on a smaller scale that shouting about things in opposition is easy and running things is hard but they have a compliant media on side so you don’t hear so much about it.

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    I saw the original production of “Frost/Nixon” in the Donmar Warehouse. One of the best theatre productions I have seen.

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    Sky are quite happy to undermine the government in any way possible. Beth Rigby on Sky News seems to have a personal vendetta against Starmer and is downright venomous towards him. I’ve actually written and complained to them pointing out that we used to watch Sky News all of the time but tend to avoid it now. If only previous governments had had their actions and policies scrutinised as forensically. And they seem to give Reform an easy ride, too.

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    Welcome to the 21st Century, moehat, where the rightwing billionaires control the media and, consequently, the popular narrative, but the masses somehow still think the media is leftwing. 🤷‍♂️

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    I remember Beth Rigby being most indignant when Liz Truss did not take a question from her in a press conference. It was about the only good thing Truss did during her brief tenure.

    #1749558
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    Politicians are paid to answer questions , the press ask them , I don’t give a feck what the journalist thinks , give me info/facts and let me decide my opinion , I always read the mail on Sunday for the financial news , all the right wing nonsense is barely glanced , oh and as I’ve said all year , the stock markets have had a stonking year , my investment fund has jumped 20% in the last 6 months alone

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    #1749560
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    “give me info/facts and let me decide my opinion , I always read the mail on Sunday”

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    Non sequitur alert

    #1749561
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    CAS that’s a production id like to have seen on stage , Frost was very influential on 70s/early 80s tv

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    #1749562
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    Glad please re-read what I said …

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    #1749564
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    It gets worse for Starmer. He has even lost Mumsnet now.

    Reform More Popular Than Labour Among Mumsnet Users

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