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- July 13, 2018 at 11:30 #1360142
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Value Is EverythingJuly 13, 2018 at 13:35 #1360147I never backed Legends Of War for the Guineas as I don’t see him as a 3YO prospect.
My Coventry horse was Sergei Prokofiev and I had him at 33/1 for that race. There became a doubt as to whether he would run so it seemed sensible to have a saver to cover my stake on Sergei Prokofiev in the event that he went to the Norfolk, so I had a small saver on Legends Of War based on the way he quickened for a tap down the shoulder at Yarmouth.
Other talk of prices was just advice on the likely odds Legends Of War was likely to be if he were to win the Coventry and be talked of as a Guineas contender. I didn’t think 20/1 was a good Guineas price myself because I don’t see him as a horse for next year but others are entitled to hold their own views and I was suggesting that if they fancied the horse for the Guineas, it would surely be sensible to take 20/1 rather than wait and potentially be looking at 8/1.
As things stand Calyx is my only bet on the 2000 Guineas, at 25/1, taken shortly after the debut win. I use my own judgement. If people need to see Timeform Ratings before getting involved they can expect to have to take shorter odds.
Diluted value? How many horses did certain parties have in the Grand National? How diluted was their value? I think even the starter was covered just in case
Did they find the winner? NO but it is comforting to know that the winner was the other one they were thinking about. Strange that there was silence for over a week after that race.I am NOT a professional punter and I largely bet very small ante post at big odds for fun. I don’t know why anyone would be obsessed with following me around making accusations that are of no interest to anyone else on the forum. If someone is making profit from racing, can they not just be happy with that and leave fun punters alone to have a bit of that FUN.
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
July 13, 2018 at 16:06 #1360159Mount Tabora is interesting today after being a hot fancy on debut and only coming 5th.
Tomorrow sees an interesting 7F maiden at Newmarket where John Gosden unveils another Scat Daddy colt in the form of the half million dollar New Jazz.
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
July 13, 2018 at 16:44 #1360162Mount Tabora was a bit disappointing again, well held in 3rd by a Godolphin newcomer.
Earlier Pretty Pollyanna hosed up but seems a bit skinny at 10/1 for the Guineas. Michael Bell wouldn’t be my trainer of choice for sure. Each to their own though.
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
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Value Is EverythingJuly 15, 2018 at 14:12 #1360420Boitron could be a nice one for Hannon. Impressed with his Newbury debut.
Quorto could be the next Masar.
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Value Is EverythingJuly 15, 2018 at 16:12 #1360424That anthony van dyck took some step forward… broome could be another to look out for next time
July 15, 2018 at 18:00 #1360430Can we just not have an interesting thread to read about horses instead of 1 mans obsession to prove another man wrong. Steve never comments on your posts ginger but your always on at him. Let’s just let it go, and keep the talk to the horses.
July 15, 2018 at 20:38 #1360451Since joining us in December…. Of your three TRF posts two have been solely about me, Groundsman. Sadly, you don’t seem very interested in “talking about horses” yourself.
Look around. Steve is a very knowledgeable TRFer, but has accused many people on TRF of being “obsessed” with him. Steve makes comments on my posts all the time, just doesn’t use my name. Alright with me, this is a discussion forum.
But you’re right, this is a 2 year old summary thread and have edited all my posts out. Sorry for derailing it.
Value Is EverythingJuly 15, 2018 at 21:03 #1360453Just caught up on Boitron GT, very impressive in the finish indeed. Race probably cut up nicely for him and probs not be a lot there, but looked a good one nonetheless.
Ham, AVD looked very decent indeed- still showing his greenness at the finish getting a fright from the rails..Donnacha ended up comparing him to Kew Gardens who won there last yr himself…He will be interesting to watch going forward….
The second in the race Ger Lyon had mentioned in his blog, needed stoking along on debut, as the horse wasn’t aware it wasn’t just out for a standard gallop…he looked again like he needed a lot of waking up from the jockey–wouldn’t say he’s one to give up on at all, i think he will improve a lot once he gets his head in the game….
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Hindsight is 20/20 so make the most of it!July 15, 2018 at 21:25 #1360456Early days, but i think a Martin Meade horse calledConfiding looks potentially very smart. Looking forward to seeing him run shortly.
July 15, 2018 at 21:31 #1360457Form of his win has worked out unbelievable botchy, one to keep an rye on for sure.
July 16, 2018 at 10:29 #1360481Quorto’s Superlative win was given an RPR of 108, compared to 110 for Gustav Klimpts (had trouble in running) and 113 for Boynton’s win.
I would imagine this could end up being a fairly decent performance going forward + i’d reckon he could be a real contender next year now that the boys in blue have got the monkey off their back.
His time compares favourably with Burnt Sugar off levels and that was run at a decent handicap pace.
Based on pedigree partly, i wouldn’t say O’Brien’s is a top 2yo, he might progress with age, but the form might not be superb going forward this season…Taking nothing away from Quorto though, i reckon he could be pretty decent indeed.
(I will be interested to see what the time analysis boys have to say about the race this week)
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Hindsight is 20/20 so make the most of it!July 16, 2018 at 16:53 #1360511I like run by Koncheck when 2nd in july stakes at Newmarket think middle park made for him this year before big sprints at 6f next year
Agree jack on that AOB horse won on saturday very good he look intresting where he go next
July 19, 2018 at 16:56 #1360633ENTICED is entered up for the Curragh Oaks card on Sunday. (1.45)
This filly is a full sister to Capri and perhaps will need a decent trip in time and probably will be better for the race if she holds her engagement.
The Dam has only been bred with Galileo thus far and Jamaica was another full brother who was nibbled in for the Epsom Derby over the winter but never raced again after disappointing behind Zawraq in the Guineas trial in the spring.
Starting her off at 6F looks short enough but she has entries in the Debutante Stakes and Moyglare over 7F.
An interesting filly for sure.
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
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