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Gypsy Eyes got upset at the start and then wouldn’t settle in the race itself. She tried to make some late headway but her race was lost long before then. Hardly the first Charlie Hills 2yo not to build on their opening effort but she is probably a bit better than she showed today.
Looking at Pure Diamond, I felt the jockey must either have been very confident in not setting out after Marenko earlier, or he must be in a bit of trouble. It turned out to be the latter and she ran like a drain, finishing stone last. Godolphin have a habit of these promising looking 2yo horses getting beaten at short odds after going into the race with the “can only improve” tag. It happens too often for my liking anyway.
I thought Nathan had a winner there when Marenko kicked on but the Bolger filly knuckled down and paid a nice enough compliment to Ballydoyle, who goes into the Moyglare as a warmish favourite this weekend. Dermot Weld’s Tanaza also beat Turret Rocks in the Group 3 Silver Flash and the Moyglare should set out a clear pecking order for the 2yo fillies this year.
As an interesting aside, it is amazing how things can quickly turn around for 2yo horses. Aiden O’ Brien’s Alice Springs looked really smart on her debut and went in as 16/1 jt fav for the 1000 Guineas. Even after going down to Tanaza on her next start, where she finished ahead of today’s winner Turret Rocks, she still had long term prospects but after not landing a blow last time behind stable mate Ballydoyle, she now lines up in the Moyglare betting at 20/1, showing how quickly you can go from hero to zero in this game.
My feeling is that the May Hill doesn’t appeal as a race to throw up anything special. The first three have all had their limitations exposed already. One observation I would make is that Richard Hannon’s Tony Curtis gave today’s third Opal Tiara a good beating last time. He did me a favour on his debut and wasn’t disgraced in the Superlative Stakes. He’s worth keeping an eye on I think.
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
The other filly with the name to conjure with from the O’Brien stable Coolmore tries to get off the mark at the second time of asking tomorrow. A decent start to her career when a promising third, she looked to me that the step up to a mile would help but she stays at 7f for now.
Sure to come on a ton, she has been backed for the 1000 Guineas this week but I would see Epsom as her better bet next year. She is a shade of odds-on on the exchanges and it will be interesting how her stable mate Seventh Heaven compares in the betting. One of our forum members got the nod that Seventh Heaven was the best prospect in the yard, yet early exchange odds of 14/1 seem to suggest she is not particularly expected tomorrow and Joseph is on Coolmore, while Seamie rides Seventh Heaven. Of course the jockey bookings don’t always pan out but it’s hard to oppose Coolmore and her odds will no doubt contract for everything from the 1000 Guineas to The London Marathon in the aftermath of a win.
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
Tomorrow Doncaster 4.50 sees Haalick reappear, I saw him win his maiden at Haydock and it was extraordinary in that he was so coltish in the parade ring then was very reluctant to enter the stalls, blew the start completely then from a boxed in position sprinted clear to win easily.
Temperament may be his undoing but if they can sort him out then this is one serious racehorse.Haalick was quite astonishing last time. I thought I had put something on here about him but can’t find it now. Tons of things went wrong for him that day and he was a real eye-catcher.
The worry tomorrow is him bumping into the Gosden runner, and they have had seven winners in the last five days.
The other worry is why Haalick has been absent for ten weeks and his maiden win not working out great. The runner up was only 4th when 8/13f for a Salisbury maiden.
With Gosden’s runner short enough for the level of form he has shown so far and concerns about Haalick’s absence and antics last time, I would side with Wall Of Fire at 5/1 for Richard Hannon. He’s won his only start and seems sure to improve and while he has also been off for longer than ideal, seven weeks, I’ll take a chance that this son of Canford Cliffs can progress for experience and the extra furlong to close the 3lbs he is rated inferior to the Gosden colt on Racing Post Ratings.
Wall Of Fire 5/1 for me
The betting was bang on again and yet another disappointing run from a Hannon horse. Wall Of Fire travelled fine early but went out like a light at the business end.
Gosden’s runner was a well supported favourite and the pick on looks. He looks a very progressive sort with more to come. Haalick ran well but Tashweeq looks the one to be with going forward and Gosden is having an excellent week.
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
Steve was looking at entries for derby a horse creeped up on me ULTRA is 2 from 2 trained by Fabre any thoughts on him
In the 4.50 Flying Scotsman it has to be Tashweeq today.
Saw Tashweeq scoring at Newmarket on the July Course a few weeks back, he looked very impressive in the paddock too (Photos posted on this thread) although a little on the big side and could have needed the race where he ran a little green (edging left) towards the finish but held on nicely to win.
He hasn’t won on anything firmer than Good to Soft yet but don’t think he would be running if that was a problem.
Jac Tashweeq was my only 2yo bet today and he didn’t disappoint, watched the race on Paddy Power and he looked so much fitter than he did at Newmarket and yes Steve he is a looker, himself and First Selection are the best looking 2yo’s I’ve seen at Newmarket this year.
Gosden is holding all the aces again for next years Classics his 2yo’s are progressing nicely.
Good luck for tomorrow..JacThings turn out best for those who make the best of how things turn out...Steve was looking at entries for derby a horse creeped up on me ULTRA is 2 from 2 trained by Fabre any thoughts on him
I don’t think the form is anything special Darren. He might well make up into a good 3yo but I can’t get excited about the bare form.
In addition, the time of the race was desperately slow, almost six seconds slower than stable mate Cloth Of Stars who won the group 3 earlier, also over a mile, on the same card. Cloth Of Stars also carried 2lbs more than Ultra.
To be honest I normally just put a pen through French horses for the Derby. Their record is poor and we had another 2 this year in Grey Lion and Migwar, who entered the Derby picture but went awol before then being beaten on their next start.
Cloth Of Stars is much preferred but even he must be an Epsom doubt based on the historical trends.
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
LOL Ghost..I think that would be the slippery slope to ruin for me.
There are much better qualified tipsters on here, I mainly just follow horses that I’ve seen in the flesh at Newmarket, Tashweeq was one of them. It’s nice when it works out but more often than not it doesn’t.
I’ll leave the tipping to TAPK, Ginger and Joni and Steve who is also great at breaking down a race and Nathan is our resident Hannon specialist etc…I think after Champions Day at Ascot we could make a summary of all the 2yo’s on this thread to follow into 2016 maybe 20 to follow, that would be interesting. Jac5 to follow from me:
Shalaa
Tashweeq
Nemoralia
First Selection
La RiojaThings turn out best for those who make the best of how things turn out...E – Motionless ! Wow !
There folks, is my idea of the 2O16 2,OOO Gns winner .
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….and now I can’t wait for the 2016 season. Appleby knows he’s got a special one on his hands here.
He’s a Godolphin horse that is the only problem. I’d be very wary of backing him for a Guineas given his connections.
A terrific performance from Emotionless but quotes of 5/1 for the 2000 Guineas are ridiculous.
This wasn’t a strong race coming in and hence a maiden winner going off odds-on in a group 2. I thought Ibn Malik was a good each-way selection at 6/1 when 3 places were available ante-post, as it was always likely that he wouldn’t have to beat many to make the frame. He ran well but it was always a hopeful pick than a confident one, because the Vintage Stakes, where Birchwood was a bit disappointing didn’t look a vintage renewal if you can excuse the pun.
Emotionless is a really striking looking colt and will surely improve but it’s been pretty lean times of late for Godolphin in the Classics and some of the ones you feel are sure to train on improve at three seem to either fail to progress the following season and/or meet with a setback eg Charming Thought who beat Ivawood in the Middle Park but has never been seen since.
It’s a long way to Newmarket in May and other promising sorts are out there. I feel second favourite for the race is probably where he should be but 5/1 favourite is suicide city this far away from the race.
The Dewhurst is said to be the next step and we should get a better idea there about the strength of the form.
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
It’s a long way to Newmarket in May and other promising sorts are out there. I feel second favourite for the race is probably where he should be but 5/1 favourite is suicide city this far away from the race.
The Dewhurst is said to be the next step and we should get a better idea there about the strength of the form.
Who’s going to take 5/1 when much bigger is available?
Taking 5/1 is certainly “suicide city” when 8/1 is available. Even 12/1 was available after the race.
It was a magnificent performance for one so inexperienced. Added to that conformation and breeding to die for. Scope to improve considerably. It’s true Godolphin hasn’t had much in the recent past and some seem to be ruined before they’re three years old. But they haven’t had a really special two year old in that time. Appleby hasn’t been training for Godolphin long either and hopefully Emotionless will over-winter in Britain.
If this horse were trained by AOB he’d be Evens favourite for the 2000. Yes, should be longer because it’s Godolphin and I wouldn’t take 5/1 if that was top price; but around 8/1 is imo well worth taking a chance.
Value Is EverythingCoolmore is proving expensive to follow and was beaten at odds on for the second time today. I did say after her first race that she needs a mile and is an Oaks, rather than a Guineas prospect. Aidan didn’t take my advice though and must have regretted that when he saw her stay on but always just be outpaced in the race. A mile next time surely?
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
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