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  • #365230
    Avatar photoZarkava
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    It’s very rare to get a proper good crop of 3yos, Ruby. When they come along, they’re a joy to behold. The 3yos last year I think are the best there’ll be in a very long time. Before that 2005, and before 2003. You occasionally get a shining beacon or 2 in terrible years – Zarkava, Goldikova, Halfway to Heaven and New Approach in 2008. Frankel and maybe Pour Moi this year. Sea The Stars and maybe Rip in 2009.

    If we get 4 or 5 good horses next year, it’ll be a good year.

    On another note, I cannot say this enough times – back Russelliana in the Princess Margaret on Saturday. Stoute’s only 3 runners in the race in the past 11 years have all won and they were both Group/Grade 1 performers. Enthused in 2000 has followed an identical path to Russelliana, in that she won her debut and finished 2nd in the Cherry Hinton.

    The only other runners he’s had since 1990 was 3rd in 94, Pure Grain. She won the Irish Oaks.

    Nap of the month.

    #365261
    Avatar photoRubyisgodinthesaddle
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    Very True Zarkava.

    I Forgot to say Tenth Star in that list and is entered to run in the Tyros 2moro night. Just another Dansili which is more of a Guineas profile for me.

    #365313
    Avatar photoZarkava
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    The St. Leger 2012 winner finished 2nd in the 7.10 at Sandown earlier. El Greco.

    #365430
    darren83
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    Was gutted last night as i backed Parish Hall instead of the filly i put up on opening thread damm.What you guys think of race last night

    And any thoughts on Questing to win 1000 guineas as well.

    #365437
    Avatar photoGhost of Rob V
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    I’m expecting Signor Sassi to make a winning debut in the 6:10 Newmarket tonight.

    #365479
    Avatar photoZarkava
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    I caught the final 2 furlongs of the opening maiden at Ascot and saw Hello Glory scoot up. She ran down the middle of the track and ran as straight as a drumstick. Very impressive. Unfortunately the breeding suggests she won’t be that good.

    #365521
    Marginal Value
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    I caught the final 2 furlongs of the opening maiden at Ascot and saw Hello Glory scoot up. She ran down the middle of the track and ran as straight as a drumstick. Very impressive. Unfortunately the breeding suggests she won’t be that good.

    Her sire, Zamindar, has five Group One winners and numerous other classy horses. Her dam, Affair Of State, now has ten winning offspring, including a Listed winner. Looking at the breeding of the likes of Canford Cliffs, Dick Turpin and Hello Glory’s stablemate, Dream Ahead, I was wondering which part of her breeding are you not happy with?

    #365543
    Avatar photoZarkava
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    Perhaps her dam has produced 10 winners, but how many of them have blacktype and how many of them have RPRs in the 110s+?

    #365769
    Avatar photoRubyisgodinthesaddle
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    The Galway Maiden races are fast becoming very good races.

    Treasure Beach after all won a nursery their.

    Keep a eye out folks.

    #365771
    Avatar photoRubyisgodinthesaddle
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    Starting to get the eyes lit up for a horse called Tibet.

    I am loving it. :wink:

    #365834
    Avatar photoZarkava
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    Perfectly understandable looking at his sire, dam and damsire, but I’m not sure about him.

    The only previous Dansili-Fusaichi Pegasus cross resulted in a Clive Brittain horse with form figures of 75769 called Kaifi. A dog of the highest order. No Dansili-Mr Prospector crosses yet either.

    La Lorgnette has produced some wonderful horses, but do they in turn produce wonderful horses? Hawk Wing was hardly a revelation at stud, and Race For The Stars’ only runner so far didn’t set the track alight. I’d be interested to find out if Lorgnette Bloodstock have bred anything before but Google seems to have very little info about them. RFTS was the only filly/mare out of La Lorgnette who raced so I wonder if they’re just trying to have some fun with her.

    Hmm, not sure. I’d probably sway more towards nay than yay. This is where Ballydoyle’s scattergun entry system is very annoying. Would love to find out which of them are their best horses. Dewhurst entries out around August 5th. Aidan only enters good horses in that, ignore anything that’s not in it.

    For example, initial Epsom Derby 2011 entries trained by Aidan without Dewhurst entries; Admiral of the Red, Auguste Renoir and Long Live The King. For some reason I only marked down those 3. But those are all dogs.

    Interestingly Camelot’s debut RPR was only 80. That instantly eliminates him on my Derby trends and he won’t be winning anything Epsom related as long as it’s a moderately decent crop of 3yos next year.

    I also wonder whether it isn’t very insightful that Aidan’s given Power so long off. He did the exact same thing with Henry and George, giving them 6-8 week breaks from June until the Phoenix.

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    Avatar photoTheBluesBrother
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    I sat down and did the ratings for Molecomb Stakes (Group 3).
    Narrowed it down to three from

    Stonefield Flyer

    ,

    Crown Dependency

    and

    Requinto

    .
    Out of the three, I have to take

    Crown Dependency

    to win followed by Stonefield Flyer and Requinto :lol:

    Complete form ratings:

    bet365 Molecomb Stakes (Group 3) (CLASS 1) (2yo) 5f

    Stonefield Flyer 14-Jun-11 Asc 5Gd C12yL 28K

    86

    Boris Grigoriev 17-Jul-11 Cur 6Y/Sft 2yG3 29K

    82

    Pyman’s Theory 26-May-11 San 5GS C12yL 12K

    82

    Requinto 09-Jul-11 Tip 5Y 2yL 23K

    81

    Crown Dependency 16-Jun-11 Asc 5GS C12yG2 42K

    80

    Burwaaz 16-Jun-11 Asc 5GS C12yG2 42K

    78

    Requinto 23-Apr-11 Cor 5Gd 2y 11K

    77

    Miss Work Of Art 13-May-11 Yor 5GF C12yL 17K

    77

    Charles the Great 23-May-11 Wdr 5GF C52yNv 3K

    75

    Vocational 15-Jun-11 Asc 5Gd C12yG2 42K

    74

    Vocational 13-May-11 Yor 5GF C12yL 17K

    74

    Miss Work Of Art 08-Jul-11 Nmk 6Gd C12yG2 34K

    74

    Stonefield Flyer 03-May-11 Ncs 5GF C52yMd 3K

    73

    Miss Work Of Art 27-Apr-11 Asc 5GF C22y 8K

    72

    Vocational 08-Jul-11 Chs 5GS C22y 8K

    70

    Pyman’s Theory 13-May-11 Yor 5GF C12yL 17K

    69

    On The Dark Side 15-Jun-11 Asc 5Gd C12yG2 42K

    69

    Charles the Great 16-Jul-11 Nby 5Gd C22y 98K

    68

    Vocational 25-May-11 Bev 5GF C22y 13K

    68

    Chunky Diamond 11-Jul-11 Wdr 5GF C52yMd 3K

    68

    On The Dark Side 04-Jun-11 Eps 6GF C12yL 14K

    65

    Stonefield Flyer 14-Jul-11 Don 6Gd C52yNv 3K

    64

    Powerful Wind 17-May-11 Kem 5St C62yMd 1K

    64

    Hidden Passion 06-Jul-11 Bat 5Fm C52yMd 2K

    64

    Stonefield Flyer 20-Apr-11 Ncs 5GF C42yNv 4K

    63

    Powerful Wind 08-Jul-11 Chp 5GS C42yNv 4K

    61

    Crown Dependency 05-May-11 Goo 6GF C52yMd 2K

    60

    Requinto 10-Apr-11 Leo 6GF 2y 10K

    60

    Burwaaz 17-May-11 Not 6GF C52yMd 3K

    60

    Church Music 10-Jun-11 Yor 5Gd C32yMd 6K

    59

    Pyman’s Theory 29-Apr-11 Lei 5GF C52yMd 3K

    59

    Hidden Passion 25-Jun-11 Nmk 6GS C12yL 12K

    58

    Charles the Great 16-Jun-11 Asc 5GS C12yG2 42K

    57

    Powerful Wind 21-Jul-11 Bat 5Gd C42yNv 4K

    57

    Vocational 02-May-11 War 5GF C52yMd 3K

    56

    Pyman’s Theory 16-Jul-11 Nby 5Gd C22y 98K

    56

    Pyman’s Theory 16-Jun-11 Asc 5GS C12yG2 42K

    56

    Pyman’s Theory 03-Jul-11 Cha 5Gd 2yG3 34K

    55

    Requinto 06-Jun-11 Naa 6GF 2yL 33K

    54

    Boris Grigoriev 28-Apr-11 Tip 5GF 2y 7K

    54

    Burwaaz 30-May-11 Lei 5Gd C62yMd 1K

    54

    Pyman’s Theory 19-Apr-11 Pon 5GF C52yMd 2K

    53

    Chunky Diamond 01-May-11 Nmk 5GF C32yMd 7K

    53

    Burwaaz 07-Jul-11 Nmk 6Gd C32y 7K

    51

    Powerful Wind 26-May-11 San 5GS C12yL 12K

    51

    Miss Work Of Art 30-Mar-11 Lin 5St C52yMd 2K

    48

    Powerful Wind 06-Jul-11 Lin 5St C52yHc 2K

    48

    Charles the Great 07-May-11 Asc 5GF C32yMd 7K

    45

    Chunky Diamond 15-Apr-11 Nby 5GF C42yMd 4K

    45

    Boris Grigoriev 14-Apr-11 Tip 5Y/Sft 2y 7K

    41

    On The Dark Side 16-Jul-11 Nby 5Gd C22y 98K

    40

    Boris Grigoriev 15-May-11 Nav 6GF 2y 11K

    37

    On The Dark Side 20-May-11 Cat 5GF C52yMd 3K

    37

    Hidden Passion 08-Jun-11 Hay 6GS C52yMd 3K

    37

    Stonefield Flyer 01-Apr-11 Mus 5GS C52yMd 3K

    36

    Powerful Wind 26-Apr-11 Wol 5St C52yMd 2K

    28

    Church Music 07-Jul-11 Nmk 6Gd C12yG2 34K

    10

    Powerful Wind 15-Apr-11 Nby 5GF C42yMd 4K

    9

    #365872
    Avatar photoRubyisgodinthesaddle
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    Camelot ran in a 4 runner maiden of unraced horse’s i don’t see how they could give him a high rating for that performance.

    On Tibet he is close to Zulu Chief a horse that could have been anything if he hadn’t of gone the wrong way. Its a smashing family and the mare was sent to Dansili. The new realsionship with Juddmonte is very important for Coolmore to have good outcross sire’s of their own to work with their mare’s. We already see that Reply and Power are Juddmonte sired and i wonder could this guy be up their with them in term’s of ability.

    2 yr old race’s need to come quick as its really hard to get any handle on their relative merit’s.

    #366398
    darren83
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    What you guys think of performance by Harbour Watch.And ignore other thread that was last year 2 thread.

    #366492
    Avatar photoTheBluesBrother
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    I said yesterday on the other two year thread that

    Harbour Watch

    who’s top speed rating was

    66

    would need to improve 20lb to beat

    Bannock 85

    and

    Caspar Netscher 85

    .

    Well

    Harbour Watch

    improved his speed rating by a jaw dropping 29lbs to head my 2yo old ratings at

    95

    with

    Bannock

    on

    89

    and

    Caspar Netscher

    on

    87

    .

    He has already bettered stable companion

    Canford Cliffs

    best 2yo speed rating of

    93

    , if he runs over 7f this year I can envisage

    Harbour Watch

    joining

    Frankel

    in the 100+ speed rating club,

    Frankel’s

    best 2yo speed rating was

    102

    .

    #366570
    darren83
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    Very intresting from you BB had no idea about that in terms bettering CC record

    And any thoughts on Gosden winner Fallen For You came from last to 1st to win well.I still like Questing more i do.

    #367093
    darren83
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    Though Learn should win tonight i think Daddy Longlegs could be a decent 2yo this year. not saying he win tonight but could progress as season goes on.

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