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Mike007 said “Noble Yeats is only 7”.
I didn’t see this mentioned on here but Robert W-C has bought this horse for the son. https://www.racingpost.com/news/paul-byrne-sells-grand-national-hope-noble-yeats-to-owner-robert-waley-cohen/538068
Yes the trends are totally against it but it’s not really the race of years ago ? (See O’Leary whingeing).
Of note is that Jett who is off 147 in the GN (66/1) who was bought by Robert W-C for last years race when trained by Jessie Harrington has left Olly Murphy after one run and is being sent hunter chasing trained by Robert himself. entered at Kelso and Haydock this weekend (Bob and Co is in both races…..).
Jett went well for a long way last year if I recall? Got a bit of a Harry Skelton rush of blood to the head ride from the Dentist
No 7 year old has won since 1940. Until such a time as it happens, you are better off backing ones that might win ;o)
Agree mike007
Also on Jett he took off at one stage last year I was fearing they wouldn’t real him back in like serpentine who ran away with the Derby
but they caught up with him when he had used his stamina up going so well for so longVF x
On Tiger Roll’s handicap mark this year. I think Gladiateur is confusing two different numbers. Tiger Roll was on a rating of 159 BEFORE he won the GN in 2019. After that win, and because of that win, his BHA rating went up to 171 (the RPR went up to 174). His new rating, used to handicap him in this year’s GN is 161 and has therefore gone DOWN ten pounds. If Tiger Roll’s team want him to have the opportunity to match Red Rum, then they must know that Red Rum was asked to run off a mark of 162 when he was twelve.
Tiger Roll is a horse who has been capable of running 12, 16, 80, 4, 65, 22 pounds below his rating in the last few years, which indicates a great lack of consistency. Well, it is either that, or his owner and trainer have not known what type of race conditions suit him best, which I cannot bring myself to believe. It is probably a good thing for normal punters that the horse will not be running in this year’s GN.
I’m not confusing anything, MV.
When Tiger Roll won the 2019 Grand National, he ran off 159. After that success, his mark correctly went up. Since then, he has run nine times and won once- in the pretty pointless cross country race at Cheltenham. Yet he is still rated two pounds higher than his winning mark in 2019… at the age of twelve.
I guess this issue just highlights a flaw in the handicap system. The handicap system is made to take results on face value, but we all know these trainers run their horses when not fit/incorrect conditions to keep their marks down. The handicapper should read these results on merit but it must be incredibly hard to when you’ve been burnt time and time again by these Irish fix it jobs at Cheltenham and Aintree.
I’ve added a second runner to go with Samcro, and I’ve taken Fiddlerontheroof at 25-1.
I still wouldn’t back a 7 year old but Many Clouds was still actually only a 7 year old when he won, being a late foal. So it might be worth checking out birth dates
Instead of trotting round 14th in a handicap hurdle, maybe they should have trotted him round in 14th beaten 31 lengths in the Thyestes, Welsh National, or Munster National, or similar, to knock a few pounds off.
Anyway, Any Second Now wins. Unless Burrows Saint gets a proper jockey, in which case it’s on the head-bob between the two.
(I like Fortescue, of the UK horses. Might be the only one in the first 10, like).
I’ve placed 3 each way punts at this stage
Fortescue 66s
Discorama 33s
Cloth Cap 33sMy current ew 5 places shortlist…
Snow Leopardess 18-1
Any Second Now 22-1
Fiddlerontheroof 28-1
Enjoy D’allen 35-1
Cloth Cap 35-1
Discorama 55-1
Escaria Ten 66-1Lord Du Mesnil runs in the National Trial on Saturday. I can see myself betting him for this before he runs at Haydock while his price is still high. Even though I’m convinced his season has been geared towards this Saturday, he has run three times over the National fences and is clearly not a fan, is weighed to his best, and needs soft ground.
Because I never learn.
This year’s Grand National winner and runner up take each other on at Ascot tomorrow (weather permitting).
And it’s not the first time they’ve met either.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"I’ve gone with my heart and gone in on Lord Du Mesnil. I’ve had him on side every time he’s been out for the last two years and I just can’t bring myself to abandon him. I always have at least one sentimental bet in the National and he gets the honour. That said Snow Leopardess has very much turned sentimental since that Becher win.
I’ve also had a go on Fiddlerontheroof. There could be more to come from him and really stands out at the weights. I really didn’t think they’d aim him at this, but Joe Tizzard has come out and said this is very much the plan. Tomorrow will tell us a lot more about his chances off this mark.
I just need to find an unexposed Irish outsider, I’m thinking possibly Braeside, and I’ll be pretty much set!
I just need to resist having a ridiculous, speculative bet on Lostintranslation!
Snow Leopardess 66 and 22
Chris’s Dream 70
Lord Du Mesnil 66
Fiddlerontheroof 25
but they caught up with him when he had used his stamina up going so well for so long
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