2019 Gold Cup

mwahahahahhag so silly

ELEGANT ESCAPE HAS NO CHANCE OF EVEN RUNNING IN THE RSA/ HE DID

ELEGANT ESCAPE WILL RUN IN THE 4MILER NOVICE FACT/ HE DIDNT

ELEGANT ESCAPE CANT JUMP/ HE CAN

ELEGANT ESCAPE WILL NEVER RUN IN A GOLD CUP/ HE WILL

ELEGANT ESCAPE STANDS NO CHANCE IN.THE GOLD CUP/ KEEP WATCHING

No offence lads but most the people on here change there opinion more often than I change my undeewear.

And they call me crazy

Potato – Assuming Henderson is able to addresss Might Bite’s bleeding problems, which I understand could be a big ‘if’, I still think Might Bite is the most likely winner and have done since last year’s Gold Cup finished. I also thought he would have won last year i.e. I have been consistent in my support (I hope not blindly) for Might Bite. That said, when new information comes to light it would be foolish not to adjust one’s thoughts to accommodate the new information. Whilst loyal to Might Bite, I have less confidence in him turning up 100% than I did at the start of the season and should the vibes not be positive I will, if necessary, adjust my opinion too. I hope I don’t have too though.

My view on the other runners:

I think Presenting Percy, despite winning the RSA comfortably, won a weak RSA which had Elegant Escape 14 lengths back in third. He is clearly a good horse but there is a big difference between winning a Pertemps or RSA and winning the Gold Cup. I’m slightly baffled why they keep delaying his debut based on the ‘ground’ given his previous strong performances on good ground. He needs to improve – which he well might given his age.

I would be very surprised if Kemboy was good enough. Still got lots to prove I’m my book. I wish all the Supreme Horse Racing club good luck but I’m not convinced he’s raced against the best yet and won. Seems to be improving though.

Native River – a good chance if the ground goes his way and hence needs a soft ground Gold Cup to have a chance in order to bring his stamina into play.

Politologue – If he can’t stay 3m at Kempton I don’t see how he will stay 3m 2f at Cheltenham with the uphill finish.

Clan Des Obeaux – Very impressed with his performance and a massive improver. Should Might Bite not recover this is where my money will be going.

Bristol De Mai – He seems to fragile, needs soft ground and seems to be leave his best performances behind at Haydock.

Good luck with your Elegant Escape bet but I think he’s the type of horse better aimed at a Grand National.

Kemboy will get rid of the rider in the gold cup, or make a bad mistake somewhere that will end it for him.
Even the jockey said he takes some chances at the obstacles.
Don’t wish it on the horse, just a gut feeling.

It’s a childish argument, Potato ; the conflation of dozens of different opinions over several months and mocking them like they were one voice.

Then there’s the salient point that it’s horse racing, we’re humans and opinions change.

I’m in the Tizzard camp at the minute for this one but I haven’t had an antepost bet yet. Native probably my first choice and then thistlecrack. Native got obvious reasons given he’s been there and done it and ran very credibly this season in races that wouldn’t entirely suit him. Thistlecrack because I think he’s just gradually coming to himself this season and back to his best and I think he will improve again on a great run in the King George. All in all this is still not a race I would have much of an antepost play on due to the arguements for a lot of these horses

David Mullins, jockey The Savills Chase wasn’t a race you could take anything out of. It was run at the pace of a beginners’ chase rather than a Grade 1, but in fairness Kemboy hit the line well. He has more gears than your normal three-miler but I’d be cautious about the form. Harry Cobden gave Clan Des Obeaux a great ride in the King George and he could be a Gold Cup horse.

Potato I strongly agree with you about CDO being several lbs better going right handed and possibly about the flat track as well. I really like him but will not back him in the GC for these reasons.

Also agree about the slow pace of the Savills and it suiting Kemboy and the clever ride he got ie you cannot expect stayers to catch up with a front runner with 2.5m winning speed at the end of what was essentially a 2m chase or not even that.

The one from the Savills I like is Bellshill. Race totally not run to suit, first time out and he will come on for it. I don’t think he’s as right handed as CDO and he came third in Might Bite’s RSA. Granted he was well adrift but he wasn’t as precocious as MB and Whisper was street smart and a bit older. I’m going to go ahead and take the 20s each way.