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Elegant Escape isn’t good enough potato, you may as well make your peace with that now.
Its not Sean Flanagan’s fault he is stable jockey to Noele Meade whose Cheltenham record in recent years for winners is….. how can I put it……… toilet.
If he was stable jock to Mullins or Elliott the topic unlikely wouldn’t come up.
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Elegant Escape isn’t good enough potato, you may as well make your peace with that now.
Great point EE isnt good enough
Sizing John wasn’t good enough. Only 2nd at his first chelt festival. Got beat in all 3 chases as a novice. Started his gold cup winning season with a rating of 150 (EE started this season off 151 and won twice as a novice).
Sizing John clearly wasn’t good enough to win a gold cup. He didnt even land his first grade 1 chase til 1 month before the big race.
Kauto Star wasn’t good enough to win a gold cup. Yes he won a class 3 novice chase but then got beat by Mistral De Coer in a 3 runner novice chase at Exeter.
That novice campaign clearly showed us he would never be a gold cup winner.Then got beat off 149 in a handicap before turning up at the festival and not even completing the course in the champion.chase.
Useless or what. Should have been.retired at that point right?
I could go on and on…..
Now back to the real world. No horse is born a gold cup winner they develop into a gold cup winner.
If you are too blind to see that EE is developing into a gold cup winner then keep watching is my advice.
Only time will tell if EE is good enough but for anyone to suggest the horse isnt good enough as being a fact. You dont have a clue my friends, not a clue。
The EE train remains perfectly on track for gold cup glory. The case is strengthening with every race.
Charlie87 said at 3pm 11th novenber
“Agree Joliff, EE shy of Gold Cup class, hence why he is 40/1 with 18 others ahead in the market. We will have months of potato telling us he is going to win the Gold Cup regardless though”
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Charlie87 said at 4:11pm 11th november
“Agree Ginge. Loving my 44’s on RTR”
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Quality logic. EE isnt good enough to win hence why he is 40/1.
But the guy backed RTR at 44s
Surely RTR couldn’t be good enough hence why he was 44s?
I’m confused here. Someone help me out please.
Hahahaha. I logged in and saw potato was the last post in the Gold Cup thread and immediately thought; he’s on the wind up again with Elegant Escape and sure enough…
All I can say is nobody saw Lord Windermere winning a Gold Cup but he did.. You keep banging that drum, pal, because in this game absolutely nothing is certain..
Actually Vautour I was on Lord Windermere, and put him up here.
I’ve also taken a bigger gamble by putting a few quid e/w on Lord Windermere who is a frustrating horse, good when he’s good and hopeless when he’s not. He’s shown very little in his last three races, but he has shown his liking for Cheltenham when winning the RSA last year. If Cheltenham fires him up again, he is no 33/1 shot.
Which merely adds to your supposition….you just never know in this game
First bet I have had is BELLSHILL 25/1 EW with bet365
My second one I like at a big price is disko, but will hold off for now until and will back him once he’s declared for a race
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In the last 10 years every gold cup winner made there debut no later than the day of the hennesey gold cup (ladbrokes trophy).
We congratulate Presenting Percy on his fantastic RSA performance last season.
Our commiserations to connections of Plodalong Percy for this season as EE will leave him behind this time in March.Here is a good one for you Potato, 4 runs later he had won both the Irish and English Gold Cups
https://www.racingpost.com/results/36/newbury/1992-11-28/49020
“lol potato. if a race fit EE is that good why didn’t he win the Ladbrokes Trophy”
If you haven’t played football for a year and you have your first game back. You will be good in that first game back and handle it. If you then play football again within 20 days you will find it harder on your legs especially in the final part of the game.
Obviously as humans we are better equipped to handle the effect of a break and then quickly reappear as we can do many stretches both pre game and post game to overcome the muscle problems.Obviously it’s hard to get a horse to do.warm up and warm down stretches so on the 2nd run back they can really find it harder and not find as much as may have been expected.
Clearly this 2nd run back just got on top of the legend that is EE and although take out the winner and he spreadeagled a high class field carrying a high weight. At the business end he was really feeling his legs but it was a heroic performance that only enhanced his gold cup claims.
He is the real deal as am I. In March you will all learn I was always coerect.
Just 1 grade 1 chase win to come on this most progressive beast of a horse then its game time at the festival.
Superb Botchy1
What a legend got beat into 2nd off 151 in the hennesy after getting beat on seasonal debut.
Jodami what a boy.
ELEGANT ESCAPE named to be the greatest chaser of all time and almost certainly a 3 to 4 times gold cup winner.
My boy won on seasonal debut and was 2nd in hennesey off 155.
A mile ahead of Jodami and bang on course for the 1mst gold cup in 3 months time. Anyone who claims otherwise is mistaken.
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