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I’m reading some of the comments about PP scratching mi head. If a horse finishes lame after a race they haven’t shown what they can do because they were injured during the race. So the poor training method claim or overhype claim cannot be proven. As others have mentioned, the horse will have to run again when fit in order to gauge his true ability if the injury isn’t serious or career ending.
The under 10 age stat trend updated for another year…
2000 8
no race 2001
2002 7
2003 8
2004 9
2005 7
2006 7
2007 7
2008 8
2009 9
2010 9
2011 6
2012 9
2013 8
2014 8
2015 8
2016 9
2017 7
2018 8
2019 7
Fantastic result for me as well
Backed Al Boum Photo at 20/1 and Bristol de Mai 40/1 EW ante post and Native River on the day. Turning in for home it was clear that it was between the three. Al Boum Photo and Bristol de Mai placed perfect.
The under 10 age stat trend updated for another year…
As does the stat about horses not having run over a fence during the season
While I was happy that my old school pal Willie finally broke his Gold Cup duck, I was delighted for Bristol de Mai – I so love that horse – what a pity so little has been made of his game effort …. he’s still at 25/1 for the National !!
Great to see Bristol De Mai run a good race at Cheltenham.
Most consistent at Haydock, but hasn’t exactly needed Haydock. Form in Wetherby’s 2017 Charlie Hall an excellent performance… And so too when second – splitting a then top form King George winner/Cheltenham Gold Cup runner-up Might Bite and an up-and-coming Clan Des Obeaux – in the 2018 Betway Bowl at Aintree. Both Aintree and Wetherby left handed flat tracks. Friday proved Bristol De Mai does not need a flat track, just a left-handed one; but that’s imo not the only relevent stat.
Racing away from Haydock, his best three performances at Wetherby, Aintree and on Friday all produced a better round of jumping/rating when reasonably fresh – after at least a short break.
Could also be something to do with how he’s been positioned. Hopefully connections have learnt how to ride the horse. Jumps well in front, but rarely as well when in behind. However, like most prominently ridden horses – doesn’t like racing in the middle of the pack/surrounded and/or on the inner/behind horses. If unable to get a prominent position this type tend to enjoy themselves and therefore jump better allowed a position on the outer – with a clear view of their fences… And that’s what happened to BDM in the Gold Cup. Even Native River didn’t like it when slowly away/in behind horses. Once switched to the outer and able to see his fences travelled better, and better still leading/up with Might Bite.
Bristol De Mai is certainly (imo) one to oppose if turning up for the Grand National. Not much time between the two meetings and unlikely to find enough room to jump anywhere near good enough… And although did well enough to say he stayed 3m2f; considering how well he was travelling two out, outstayed by both Al Boum Photo and Anibale Fly. So in all probability has stamina limitations racing over even further and poorly handicapped with latter horse.
Value Is EverythingThat’s fair comment about Bristol De Mai Ginge, and I think he deserves a few grudging
plaudits from some of his detractors. I’ve been a fan for some time and was delighted
with his run. I was sitting in the stand in line with the 2nd last, and I really thought
at that point that he might just pull it off, he was travelling so well. He kept on well
enough after that, but just beaten by 2 who saw out the trip better. I doubt they would
send him to the National, I think it would be a mistake. Personally I hope they plot a
route back to the Gold Cup next year, giving him enough of a programme to keep him fit,
but, as you suggested, perhaps well spread out so he goes there fresh. I don’t think
they would need to eke out much more to have him bang there at the finish. He’ll only
be 9 next year so I don’t see any reason why he shouldn’t be at the top of his game.
It’s a bit early, for me at least, to think about an ante post for next year, but 33/1
will look pretty big (IMO) if he gets there in decent shape.Al boum photo won very easily and if he can brush up on his jumping will be very hard to beat next year. I can only see presenting Percy,if he recovers from his injury, challenging him if he arrives in the same form next year.
The Irish handicapper has given ABP a mark of 175, so the British handicapper is bound to give him more, since they believe that Irish horses are constantly underrated by the Irish handicapper.
One country uses centigrade and the other farenheit, twm.
They’re bound to have different ratings.Value Is EverythingThat’s fair comment about Bristol De Mai Ginge, and I think he deserves a few grudging
plaudits from some of his detractors. I’ve been a fan for some time and was delighted
with his run.Totally agree with you, BigG.
When rating how good Bristol De Mai is, it shouldn’t matter the majority of his best performances came at Haydock. He’s put up top quality performances therefore he is a top quality racehorse. Where he’s put up his best only matters when discussing his chance at other racecourses.Do we ever hear people saying about one that’s won so often at Cheltenham, “but he can’t win at Haydock”? As if that makes the form any worse. But that’s probably more about some people exaggerating Cheltenham form purely because it’s Cheltenham and dissing form from elsewhere.
Value Is EverythingYeah 175 from the irish surprised me, he did not run to 175, but unfortunately the whole divison now has inflated ratings, almost all of them incapable of running to the same mark NTO which tells you what i just said to be true,
So i suppose technically he has ran to 175, but i wouldnt be giving him that, 170 would have been plenty… no doubt the british handicapper will give him 212
I think potato would agree with you ham and certainly the extra strong mustard of British handicappers has been at war with the very success that stimulates the salivating glands of the sport it should be trying to flavour, and would rather burn any progressive and see them in the rolling credits of any C rated snuff movie than War Horse Box Office best.
Fomula One have just changed their rules to increase the value of speed, so why not the oldest form of clip clop transport giving a penny or a pound or two less when trying to deliver the perfection of an equal finish
Ginger, you’re improving, my friend. Only 2 seasons behind me in correctly assessing the merits of Bristol De Mai :)
So a disappointing run from BDM given his lofty 195 rating of just 16 months ago Joe
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