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  • #1334725
    Jasolong
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    4/5 BD to win the champion hurdle is good value to me. He now doesn’t need to come off the bridle to win.

    #1334730
    Jasolong
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    Before anyone mentions it I know it’s not 4/5 anymore. I looked straight after Faugheen race and was 1.86 on exchanges but now 1.75 and going lower by looks of it

    #1334731
    Altior
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    Would love to see Yorkhill having a good at the Champion Hurdle.

    If he blazed a trail, I could see him giving BD something to think about.

    #1334732
    Avatar photoGingertipster
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    Who’s Best? Probably Faugheen at the moment. However, BVD has scope for further improvement (Faugheen won’t at his age). However, (may sound strange but) in this year’s Champion Hurdle ante-post betting it doesn’t really matter who’s the “best”. When two horses look way above the rest what matters is soundness. BVD looks sound and must be much more likely to make it to Cheltenham. So why not back BVD now and (if wanting to) have a saver on Faugheen only once NRNB comes in? If Faugheen doesn’t make it BVD will be a whole lot shorter. It’s not that anyone is wishing ill for the Irish horse; it’s just you’ve got to look at probabilities of every possible eventuality when assessing ante-post value.

    Around 7/2 at the time. Hate to tell you I told you so……

    …Although BVD has to get there yet.

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    #1334735
    Jasolong
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    Yep think a number of us tried to convince them Ginge!

    #1334739
    Avatar photoGingertipster
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    Yes, to me it was the obvious bet at that time, but had already taken 5/1 myself, Jasolong.
    You might like to delete the last word of your post as I’ve done, mate; some might take offence with what’s happened today. :good:

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    #1334777
    Avatar photoMarkTT
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    As I’ve said throughout this thread, Buveur D’Air is a great horse. He really is.

    But if Faugheen turns up, he wins.

    It’s as simple as that for me.

    It was never that simple.

    #1334779
    ham
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    I dont think anyone here was suggesting it would be a walkover? I merely took the chance to back at 10s and lay off if he came back and won, which he did, so saying you tried to convince people is just stupid, unless you green out, you havent won anything yet LOL your slip is as worthless as it is on anyone else

    I was in discussion with jas because faugheens abillity was being pushed off as if BVD would walk all over him

    BVD was always the bet antepost after faugheen won FTO, i even said it myself…

    Ps, willie mullins thinks faugheen is “incubating a cold” hence why id imagine hes still 5/1ish

    #1334781
    ham
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    It was never that simple.

    Oh gosh, another aftertimer LOL, MOM is clearly stating if he turns up fit, he would beat him, which is not unlikely

    Are you now saying you believe faugheen ran 100% today? Idiot LOL

    #1334784
    Avatar photoMiddle_Of_March
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    Yep think a number of us tried to convince them Ginge!

    He’s not even won yet. Turn it in before you get smug. Wait til he actually wins before the ‘I told you so’

    #1334785
    Avatar photoMarkTT
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    I’ve reported that post, Ham. I’m not having being called an idiot on here, when I always give reasons for my thinking. After timer ? How, when I’ve explained my thoughts on Faugheen and his fitness earlier in the thread ?

    It was never that simple. I think that’s a fair comment, particularly after everything else I’ve written on the race in this and other threads.

    I only wish I could put you on ignore.

    #1334786
    Avatar photoMiddle_Of_March
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    He would beat him if fully fit. I did say IF.

    This is a crazy thread. The aftertiming and smugness of some here about a horse THAT HASN’T EVEN WON YET is absolutely baffling.

    If Buveur D’Air misses the meeting through injury (a possibility with all racehorses), they will look stupid for celebrating a win and giving it the big one on a horse that’s not even won yet.

    There’s a long way to go.

    #1334788
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    I’ve reported that post, Ham.

    To be fair, your reply to me was awfully smug. Easy to say that after the event isn’t it.

    I specifically made a point of saying ‘If Faugheen likes up’. It’s a huge point to my argument which you completely ignored.

    #1334791
    Avatar photoMarkTT
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    How is it aftertiming when, well before today’s race, Gingertipster spoke about the doubts surrounding Faugheen’s fitness and Buveur D’Air’s ( as yet ) clean bill of health ?

    Far too much mud slinging from you and Ham.

    #1334793
    ham
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    Mark, i myself spoke about fitness doubts before anyone, CONNECTIONS of the horse ie the people who work with the horse said he was fine and he ran to 172, he CLEARLY was not fine today lol

    Your aftertiming because ginge, myself and everyone else who said he might not make it, were guessing based on previous injuries, none of us work with the horse its an assumption, if i thought he was 100% making it fit and healthy i would not have greened out (as much)

    Mud slinging? Yet your the one on here quoting posts from when the horse had jjst ran to 172 as if MOM was stupid to have that opinion? Idiot. Lol

    #1334796
    Avatar photoMarkTT
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    It wasn’t a smug reply because it was never that simple. It’s a statement of fact that we should all know by now after years of betting on this sport.

    Accusing people of something without any evidence is just playground behaviour. I don’t do smug. I very rarely quote my posts after a prediction is proved correct and didn’t gloat after Might Bite won the King George or Beware The Bear won at Newcastle.

    #1334800
    ham
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    Yet you went out your way to quote his.

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