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Too much sanctimony and virtue signalling in play here.
It’s nice to be right. Faugheen doubters are fully entitled to enjoy their moment – have a little laugh and a gloat in a playful way. You/we made a brave call in doubting one of the best Champion Hurdlers of the last 30 years and it’s OK to express a bit of satisfaction.
The horse’s life is not in danger so I don’t see any problem with the posts above.
If he was a Champion Hurdle Horse he would be a Champion Hurdle Horse; he’s not. They have gone down the Gold Cup route because of his “engine”
I would like to see him run over 3 miles again; maybe with experience he will learn to settle. You could see from the 3rd fence the other day that he wasn’t getting home. That’s why I think he will probably end up at the Ryan Air. I’d say if he makes the festival there is a 95% chance it will be RyanAir/Gold Cup.
Anyway, I realize that I’m against the majority with this view and if he turns up in the Champion Hurdle I’ll happily eat my hat. But I really don’t see it. He’d be lapped.
Lapped
Yorkhill could have been a Champion Hurdle horse last season. Just because he wasn’t doesn’t mean he isn’t. BVD went chasing and reverted back.
Yorkhill isn’t a Champion Hurdle horse. He’s not fast enough, Mullins has a decent prospect for the race in Melon and connections obviously know the score as they think he is more likely to be a 3m chaser.
I agree with Stevie C – some dire ante-post prices available on this horse.
A game of opinions our game – I like that Yorkhill divides them, a true testament to his versatility and talent.
Question for the ‘pace’ people: Do you think Yorkhill simply doesn’t have the turn of the foot for a CH end of, or are your pace concerns more to do with the fact we are 10 weeks away from the festival and he has been campaigned as a 3 mile chaser? I appreciate the two overlap, but I am keen to hear what people think.
Yorkhill is a decent horse but a little overrated for me and the bookies love that because they can give poor value on it. He’s a lay wherever he goes for me, especially champion hurdle. I’ll lay him for the Ryanair not because I don’t think he can win that because he could but I know his price will be extremely low for the Ryainair as he is a tad overrated.
No one will convince me otherwise but he was never the best horse in the race when he won the Neptune. Yanaworth was 5 horse wide the whole race and got beat 1 and 3/4 lengths by Yorkhill.
JLT not quite so obvious but I think top notch my have beaten him but for his mistake 2 out and that’s actually no disgrace because top notch he proved he’s pretty special himself. But all in all I think Yorkhill is just a tad overrated and a tad hype horse and I think a lot of people have boarded the hype train. I don’t believe he is as versatile as people Say either. He’s a 2.5 miler and I don’t know where people get the idea that he could win whatever he fancies from. He gets beat in any other division other than 2.5 miles which I still don’t think he’s invincible inNo one will convince me otherwise but he was never the best horse in the race when he won the Neptune. Yanaworth was 5 horse wide the whole race and got beat 1 and 3/4 lengths by Yorkhill.
You still haven’t let Yorkhill beating Yanworth in the Neptune go!
He is considerably more than just decent, come on.
Jasolong, was Sea The Stars not very good as he never won by a clear distance?
Great banter Kev
Clearly someone is on the Yorkhill hype train 👀
Kevin firstly I said he’s a tad overrated which means a tiny bit.
A lot of people think he’s a world beater. I think he’s slightly below that he gets beat in every division whether it’s hurdles or chase over 2 miles or 3 miles. 2.5 miles is debatable he could certainly win over that distance but still not unbeatable for me.In terms of winning distance you mentioned. I don’t think you really understand what I was saying. He beat yanworth by 1.75 lengths where yanworth lost many lengths by going via the car park under Geraghty so my view is that had he not given all those lengths away he would have won. That’s my point of view. Others say Yorkhill could have pulled out more etc. And that’s all fine with me but to come in and say do I rate sea the stars is strange to say the least. Firstly he was on the flat where winning distances are a lot smaller anyway and secondly he didn’t beat a horse 1.75 lengths who had to run 5 horse wide the whole race so I don’t get your point?
Some horses don’t do a tap in front. Yorkhill, like STS, stop when they hit the front. They will beat a 120 rated hoss around the same as they would a 150 hoss.
Makes sense mate if that’s what you believe can understand that.
I still think yanworth should have won. Have 2 different opinions but both have logic behind them.
He won’t be beating BD thoughSome horses don’t do a tap in front. Yorkhill, like STS, stop when they hit the front. They will beat a 120 rated hoss around the same as they would a 150 hoss.
That must be why Yorkhill front runs so often, Kev.
Value Is EverythingJaso, as I said earlier, you need to get past the Neptune defeat. How can someone supporting Yanworth as you have expect not to get pulled up on calling Yorkhill an overrated ‘hype horse’. That’s exactly what Yanworth is. Yorkhill has achieved far more. 4 grade ones, multiple festival wins, and far more potential.
I don’t like your contradictions either. You have said in the same thread on the same day ‘he’s a 2.5 miler’ and ‘2.5 miles is debatable’. ‘Yorkhill is a ‘decent horse’ yet top notch is ‘pretty special’.
Inconsistent.
I don’t think I made a grammar error so you must have read it wrong. I was saying he gets beat over 2 miles or 3 miles and it’s debatable whether he gets beat over 2.5 miles. What I’m saying here is that he could win over 2.5 miles potentially but has no chance over 2 miles or 3 miles. Thus insinuating that I think he’s beat over 2.5 miles. So not contradiction there. Please don’t try and call me out on stuff mate when you’re wrong I don’t like it. You’re obviously offended by my affluent arguements against Yorkhill and possibly Faugheen.
In terms of the use of “decent” and “pretty special”. These words are completely objective to the person saying them. What decent means to you is different to others.
I’ve said Yorkhill is decent and just shy of a world beater which too me means pretty special but not quite special enough to be the best in his division but close and I feel the same way about top notch. So again there no contridiction.
Honesty if you’ve gone out of your way to pick holes in my arguements and come up with that then that’s disappointing from you.
I know what I mean and I’m one of the straightest talkers on here I don’t sit on the fence so to tell me I contridict myself is mad because you must think everyone does if I do.I’ll be clear for you.
Yorkhill won’t win any race at Cheltenham bar the Ryanair is his only shot. And I would still lay him because he will probably be 6/4 and I think his chance of winning the ryainair is more like 5/2.
Hope this helps. And I’ll try a better use of adjectives in the future to stop any confusion.
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