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    Very strong looking entry this year, with plenty who could go here with realistic chances. As usual, races like The Ladbroke Trophy, could provide plenty of clues.

    https://www.racingpost.com/racecards/12/chepstow/2017-12-27/688626

    American is the first horse who’ll put his credentials on the line at Newbury, and given what he showed us last year, and his preference for softer going, there’s every chance he’ll get conditions to suit here. If, as expected, he runs well at Newbury, he’ll have to fulfil all his promise, as he’ll likely be lumping a big weight here. Big chance nonetheless at 14’s. His stablemate, Wotzizname is another going the right way, and although he’s got to step up a fair bit, I was quite taken by him at Exeter, and he’s one to keep an eye on this year. American looks the stables main hope though, and Newbury should tell us more.

    Talking of Newbury, the one shock absence from that race when the entries came out, was that of Rock The Kasbah. Fresh from his win at Chepstow, he was many peoples idea of the winner of The Ladbroke, but it just might be that his form round here will see this marathon as the ideal target, and he must be considered a massive danger, and the 14’s looks decent. I’m a huge fan of his stablemate, Three Faces West, and though The Becher is surely the short term plan, if things don’t go his way there, then that would bring him right into this.

    In the same ownership as Three Faces West, is the Fergal O’Brien trained, Viva Steve. Has promised to deliver in something like this, and there wasn’t that much wrong with his run in The Kerry National. Considering the form the yard is in, and the fact he’s normally gambled anyway, then I suggest that anyone who likes him, should snaffle that 25’s just now, as that price looks wrong. Stablemate Chase The Spud was a tidy winner at Haydock today, but the trainer didn’t seem keen, and I’m not convinced that this will be what his stablemate Perfect Candidate requires either.

    Haydock also seen Nigel Twiston-Davies in the money with Bristol De Mai, and Cogry, who looks better than ever, could be his key to more success here. I think he’s another who might just surprise in The Ladbroke, but if things don’t go to plan there, then he’ll remain on a nice mark for this, and with the form he’s been in since his jumping issues, he has to be shortlist material at 20’s. That’s a great price.

    Vyta Du Roc could head here in the Bristol De Mai colours, and although I’d prefer his chances at Newbury, wherever he heads, he looks weighted to run well. Not the only one from the Henderson yard either, and he also has

    Sugar Baron
    Beware the Bear
    Lessons In Milan

    entered, and I think that Bear looks the stable pick at this stage.

    Venetia Williams landed this a couple of years back, and the evergreen Houblon Des Obeaux looks a big price at 20’s, certainly considering his recent form, and his stablemate, former winner, Emperors Choice, is also in there. Not much recent form for him, but I’m not brave enough to write him off.

    Michael Scudamore also landed this, and he could be represented by Mysteree, and recent Cheltenham winner, Kingswell Theatre. This would represent a different kind of test for Kingswell, but he’s entitled to take his chance, that was a fine win, and he showed a great attitude. He’ll need it here. After his Eider win, I just couldn’t have Mysteree for The Midland National, but he fair dug it out, and once a horse has shown the ability to land two marathons like those, then it’s impossible to be negative about him here. He must have some sort of a chance, and 25’s looks generous. Streets of Promise could also represent them, and he has bits and pieces of form.

    Kerry Lee, who landed this with Mountainous, has a few entered, and her Bishops Road is bound to be popular. Not done anything of note for a while now, but down to his last winning mark, and will get conditions to suit here. I’ve a soft spot for Alfie Spinner, and I’ll probably continue to say he has place claims until they retire him. She could also be represented by Russe Blanc, and Goodtoknow, and on their best days, could figure here. Russe Blanc unseated today, but certainly wasn’t beaten at the time, and he really caught the eye at Carlisle. Back to his last winning mark, when he won The Classic Chase, he’s one of the best priced outsiders at 33’s. Goodtoknow’s best piece of form is chasing home One For Arthur in this years Classic Chase, but so far hasn’t shown any signs of repeating it.

    That brings us to Colin Tizzard, last years winning trainer, and he has plenty entered here, namely…..

    Robinsfirth
    Royal Vacation
    Theatre Guide
    Bally Longford
    Buckhorn Timothy

    I think that Buckhorn Timothy has plenty of appeal here, and he’s a decent price, but assuming he runs well at Newbury, I think that Royal Vacation could be his #1, and he looks too big at 25’s. I love Theatre Guide, but I’ll wait on him for the spring.

    For the Nicholls yard, Vicente would be the star name, but I’m not sure this is what he needs en-route to Aintree, where he also has The Becher as a potential target, and the yard might just have a dark one in Southfield Theatre, who remains lightly raced, and well treated. Silsol flopped today, but I don’t know, I can’t crab him for this, and todays run was off a long lay off, and this just might suit him. Binge Drinker looks unexposed, but he must step up.

    Ireland went close in this last year, with Raz De Maree, and he’s back from more, but although he doesn’t seem in the best of form, has he been laid out for this? The same could be said for Baie Des Iles, who was fifth last year, and though he’s higher in the weights for remaining in form, he’s very hard to be negative about. I’d be very interested in Logical Song, if he came here in half the form that he was in when he ran away with The Cork National, while Mala Beach looks a serious player in tomorrows Troytown. The one I do like though, and no surprise to those familiar with my waffle, is Folsom Blue. Impressive winner over hurdles last time, and we get to see him over timber tomorrow, along with Baie Des Isles. Folsom is impossible to predict, and he could easily flop here, but he’s more than paid his way for me in the past (as well as a few reverses), and although not strictly my #1 here, there is no way I’m letting him go unbacked here at 33’s.

    Plenty of others to note…..

    Ask The Weatherman came from the point to point field with a big reputation, and although to win this, he’d have been entitled to be closer in the Foxhunter at Cheltenham, he’s still won on his other 2 races under rules, and he looks to have a fair bit of potential. 16’s is maybe a bit skinny on overall achievements, but I still like him.

    Rebecca Curtis is having a hard time of it of late, but O’Faolains Boy is well treated, and after a terrible return from injury last year, he ran well for a long way in The National, and the “PU” doesn’t do him credit, while he wasn’t that bad at Punchestown, and I’m not that surprised he’s as low as 25’s, while at the same time, conditions could be perfect for her former charge, Bob Ford, who is big at that price of 25’s.

    Unlike Curtis, Anthony Honeyball is doing well, and he’s fresh from winning The Southern National with Cresswell Breeze, who wouldn’t be disgraced here, but it’s his stablemate who interests me here, Regal Encore. Ran a blinder in The National, won The Sodexo Silver Cup, and ran a stormer at Punchestown in the last year and a half, and although there’s a good few pulled ups in amongst that form, if anyone can tell me why he’s 50’s, I’d like to know. I’ve bet him for The Becher as well. Yard in form, JP’s only entry (in both races), he’s very much getting a few quid of mine on him.

    That’s enough for now, and no time to go over the 48 Evan Williams entries, as I did this preview earlier on, and lost every bloody word of it, when the site crashed……..there’s a few hours of my life I’m not getting back, and one of those occasions where I invented some new swear words.

    Loads who haven’t been mentioned yet, but of those who have, then

    Cogry
    Rock The Kasbah
    Russe Blanc
    Ask The Weatherman
    and
    Baie Des Isles

    could all have been bet in another year, but for now, my money is down, and I’m stuck with this pair.

    Folsom Blue EW 33’s
    Regal Encore EW 50’s

    GL

    #1328905
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    I was just about to bet Mala Beach for this Venture, but I held off. Do you think he would face a stiffrise in the weights?

    #1328918
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    Another superb write up, Bobby. If you are so keen on Regal Encore hat’s all I need to hear and have taken some 50s.

    #1328922
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    I was just about to bet Mala Beach for this Venture, but I held off. Do you think he would face a stiffrise in the weights?

    He will get a decent rise for that today

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    @Buckers

    Buckers, I’d agree with Ham here, it might be hefty, as Elliot horses can sometimes get hammered over here. There’s also the problem with the proximity of The Paddy Power, which is usually within 24 hours of this, which can make things risky for betting Irish Challengers Ante-Post here.

    I know I’ve bet Folsom Blue, but as I said, very much not #1 choice, and just wanted a slice of those odds, I’d always be wary of the Irish ones this far out. Not that a few of them aren’t very interesting.

    Well played again today, always good to see one win a competitive handicap like that, and good to see him fulfilling that early promise.

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    @Steeplechasing

    Thanks Joe, appreciate it.

    I really do like him, and though I’ve not went full pelt on him, (on account of his Becher entry, and the proximity of Ascot and Leapordstown) I really like those odds, and couldn’t let them go.

    Trainer in fine form, and JP normally has one in this that gets punted, and as this is his only entry, that was enough for me. He’s also JP’s only entry for The Becher, but at 33’s and 50’s, that means you can cover both.

    I think the horse gets an unfair reputation for “PU”, but amongst those runs, are some damn fine efforts, and I’m more than happy to chance him here. When you look at some of his runs, and then look at some of them who are more than half the price, then the 50’s just looks wrong to me.

    #1328937
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    Tremendous write up,though I did like the first one better VTC :unsure:

    Couple you have mentioned catch the eye this far out.

    Southfield Theatre….was hoping he would get entry,142 looks perfect,bottom weight last year was 139.

    Nicholls has a fine record in this,no surprise if he goes here

    No prizes for guessing the Lee team target this race,that race at warwick that Goodtoknow ran 2nd,

    screamed welsh national to me.Another off 142 at the mo,too far out for me to get involved.

    Prior to Native River,very strong trend to those at the lower end of the handicap,not lost on some trainers.

    Early days,one of those races that everyone has a memory of,always a puzzle that takes some working out.

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    Cheers Flyers,

    agreed, it’s a fair bit out, and by the middle of December, I’ll probably have a book running, done one the last 3 years, and it’s went well. Still no idea of my #1 yet, but pretty sure it’ll probably be Kasbah, or, depending how Newbury goes, Cogry, but I’m happy to have the early pair in there for now, especially Regal Encore.

    Southfield does look good, and a potentially lovely weight, so a fair shout, and of the Lee horses, I just keep going back to Russe Blanc.

    #1329139
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    THank you Ham + Venture. That is enough for me to leave him for now

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    I notice that PRICEWISE has analysed the race today in the Racing Post. I am delighted that he has tipped my selection POBBLES BAY. This horse has Chepstow form and seems to stay for ever. He has also been targetted at this race and Evan Williams says he will run. Mind you I am biased !!

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    Very happy with Regal Encore at Newbury, I do hope they consider this, and I’ve just added Beware The Bear to the book at 38’s to 48’s.

    #1330036
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    Nice one, Bobby. Let’s hope he turns up.

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    Fingers crossed Joe, hoping he catches punters attention anyway, as he should pay for my book comfortably, with plenty to spare.

    Had him 100’s today, so he more than paid for all my “Hennessy” bets, with a wee bit on top, so whatever happens, he’s already paid his way.

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    I dipped in with American 14/1 before the Hennessy and then again at 20/1 after it. Given his Newbury run is easily excusable – suffered an over-reach and lost a shoe – I think he will be the main player in a race that looks made for him.

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    ROCK THE KASBAH 14/1 To win this race loves Chepstow trainer loves the race as well think he a big player i do

    #1330277
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    Southfield Theatre is 148,apologies bit of a typo earlier saying 142,entered in the Becher weekend.

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    Darren, took the plunge myself tonight on Kasbah. He was always high on my list to be my #1 in this, and I’ve had a few quid on. After yesterday, I’ve topped up more on Regal Encore, and the pair of them lead the way for me here.

    I missed doing a book on this last year, because of my Native River bet, but I did one the 2 years before, and they went very well. Early doors here, but considering it this time around, and I’m on the verge of adding Russe Blanc as well, but holding tight, just in case I change my mind about the book. Probably 50/50 on that front, as the odds look tight right now.

    I’ll stick with these for the timebeing…..

    Rock The Kasbah Win 14’s
    Regal Encore Each Way 50’s
    Regal Encore 50’s to 80’s

    Beware The Bear 38’s to 48’s
    Folsom Blue EW 33’s

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