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- November 3, 2017 at 22:43 #1324838
Another one we agree on Peter. I’ll be disappointed if this boy don’t go close.
November 9, 2017 at 22:08 #1326012I’ve had a saver on A Genie In Abottle in this. He looks another who is tailor made for the race. Judging by the form of last years Irish novices he could still have a good few lbs in hand and, if Coneygree stays in, will go off a lovely racing weight. 25/1 with Hills
November 11, 2017 at 13:30 #1326328I like your Vyta du Roc bet Lemons and he is my first bet for this race at 25s (I don’t have an account with the firms offering 33s).
November 14, 2017 at 20:47 #1326766Good luck GReenasgrass, I think he is great value for this
November 15, 2017 at 14:55 #1326830I was thinking about backing Whisper at 14/1 but looking at it again, if Coneygree doesn’t run then he’d end up top weight and I’m not sure that’s ideal for such a moderately sized animal.
Instead I’ve nibbled at the 33/1 on offer about Champers On Ice to go with my American bet (8/1). He’s already won on the hurdles course at Newbury and goes very well on soft ground so the more rain the merrier. He’s still only 7 so the right age for the type of second season novice this race attracts and has plenty of time for improvement in him. He’s had two runs over 3 miles over fences, one when hacking up at 1/5 in a weak Uttoxeter event and the other a gallant second to American at Warwick on level weights. Should they both arrive at Newbury next month then Harry Fry’s charge will have to concede a full stone to the Pipe horse and you can’t say that doesn’t encourage connections that a reverse in form is possible. I hope they run.
I’ve also had a tiny bit on Double Ross at 40/1 who would run off a 2 pound lower mark than when 3rd in this last year to Native River. He had an out-of-character mishap at Sandown over the weekend but appeared none-the-worse for it and completed the full course with the other runners so has effectively had 2 races so far this season; the same as he had going into this last year. The stable’s in form and I’d be interested to see if they put Jamie Bargary or Zac Baker up.
November 15, 2017 at 15:04 #1326833I already have a little on Whisper but share your concerns over weight with this small horse. He looked well in himself the other day I thought and should be well primed mind you.
I see that Vyta du Roc has a Becher entry so chance will not run in this. If ground good would be interested in the other Henderson runner O O Seven
November 18, 2017 at 19:01 #1327494Think I’ve done my dough here with Codelco. Seen nothing to enthuse about in his first 2 runs, and a mountain to climb now.
November 18, 2017 at 19:49 #1327500Bobby, judging on his head carriage today he looks like he needs a breathing op
November 19, 2017 at 00:43 #1327536Yeah Joe, think you’re right. I’m not a very good judge of the physical side of things like yourself, but I can spot the odd problem, and I could tell today he wasn’t right.
I’ve written him off now, and left with American as my Ladbroke/Cheltenham Gold Cup Double horse this year, but compared to Codelco, it’s a small one, and not in the same league as Native River last year.
I’m not hanging about looking for a replacement though, and after having a long look at Royal Vacation, I’ve went for Cogry at 33’s.
After his jumping problems of last year, he looked a different horse for winning over timber. His second in The Scottish National was a career best, it was some run, so close, and he may just be a target horse. I thought he was very impressive last time at Cheltenham, and he beat the current third favourite for this, Singlefarmpayment, who we’re both big fans of, and SFP is as low as 15-2. SFP will be a few pounds better off, but maybe not enough to justify the big difference in price here.
Might be immaterial if those jumping issues resurface, and he’ll have some nice horse in there against him, but at 33’s, worth a go each way.
That leaves me with…..
American 16’s Win
Cogry 33’s EW
Double Ross 40’s EWNovember 19, 2017 at 12:24 #1327588Amyone know if Champers is coming here or if it’s one of those entries which is just a toe in the water ?
November 19, 2017 at 13:16 #1327602In his are stable tour (late October) Pipe said:
A frustrating time last season in a way, because we had extremely high hopes of him, having finished third in the Albert Bartlett. Equally, I shouldn’t have run him over 2m5f at Cheltenham, it was too short a trip. He jumps left so has to go left-handed and he needs to sharpen up his jumping, but I’m sure there’s a lot more to come over 3m, maybe a bit further – it wasn’t the trip that beat him in the four-miler at Cheltenham, he just made too many mistakes. Could start in the ‘Fixed Brush’ over hurdles at Haydock to boost his confidence, and he might be the type for the Welsh National.
November 19, 2017 at 23:37 #1327747Thanks. Sounds unlikely then.
Has the potential to win a decent handicap and goes well fresh so a pop over hurdles sounds a bit old fashioned.
November 20, 2017 at 15:57 #1327794Coneygree and American having a spin round Newbury tomorrow ahead of the Hennessy in a couple of weeks….interesting
November 21, 2017 at 18:32 #1327940Champers On Ice is indeed being trimmed in the market for the hurdle at Haydock on Saturday which suggests he won’t be turning up at Newbury.
After hearing that everything seemed to go hunky dory for Coneygree in his spin round I’ve decided just to nibble at the 20/1 on offer from Paddy Power. He’ll surely be backed on the day.
November 26, 2017 at 14:48 #1328853Any chance Acapella runs after his soft fall today? I know they have Total Recall but…
November 26, 2017 at 15:32 #1328867My thoughts too. Just had a small bet at 25s on the off chance as he’ll be single figures if he runs
November 26, 2017 at 16:40 #1328887I’ve dipped in with Coneygree at 20/1.
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