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  • #1291755
    hayper
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    Very good judgment Steve :good: No shadow of a doubt Brain Power is the most likely winner, he just looks like a proper Champion Hurdle horse, where fav Yanworth is highly overrated, even Alan King didn’t believed he had a champion hurdle horse. Yanworth’s form this season is more less the same to form he showed in last year’s Neptune, no sign of the any big improvement, if he runs tomorrow to his official 164 mark and wins Champion Hurdle it will mean ‘he cheated his genes’, because his pedigree looks awful in the champion hurdle contest.

    #1291760
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    I am not worried about Yanworth

    you will be by the end ;-)

    Never have so many words being wasted when the answer is staring you all in the face.

    And the answer is Yanworth B-)

    #1291761
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    Skybet are going 4 places for this

    Blackbeard to conquer the World

    #1291762
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    Very good judgment Steve :good: No shadow of a doubt Brain Power is the most likely winner, he just looks like a proper Champion Hurdle horse, where fav Yanworth is highly overrated, even Alan King didn’t believed he had a champion hurdle horse. Yanworth’s form this season is more less the same to form he showed in last year’s Neptune, no sign of the any big improvement, if he runs tomorrow to his official 164 mark and wins Champion Hurdle it will mean ‘he cheated his genes’, because his pedigree looks awful in the champion hurdle contest.

    Yanworth is overrated? I don’t think so. This is a horse who battles, who knows how to get it done, he’s the kind of horse who might not look flashy but only just does enough. He’s the type of horse you want on your side at Cheltenham. Don’t say I haven’t warned you.

    Very rarely are these type of horses “overrated”

    #1291764
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    Think Yanworth and Petit Mouchoir are the form horses here; not quite sure why PM has drifted to 13-2. May have an EW on Sceau Royale, 33-1 at present

    #1291765
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    I can be wrong about BP, so don’t worry…I really wish for you Yanworth to win tomorrow (I had this horse in some multiples couple months ago), good luck Judge with your selection! :good:

    #1291766
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    Wouldnt necessarily say yanworth is overrated, would just say that hes a stayer and would need the race to go completely his way to win… his jumping is horrific.

    Id rather take brain power at 15/2, dosent have to improve much to win and has arguably the correct attributes to win this

    can see the yanworth angle, if you got on at better prices earlier in the season then :good:
    I think yanworth has a big chance but at his odds hes to skinny for me.

    #1291768
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    Being a strong stayer is never a bad thing in a champion hurdle Ham. Look at some of the previous winners- Sublimity, Hardy Eustace, Rock on Ruby. No doubt they were taking on more brilliant horses who were strongly fancied to beat them. Harchibald traded at 1.01 in Hardy Eustaces 2nd champion win.

    Anyway I’ve said enough about Yanworth. Just hope I haven’t jinxed him and he’ll probably get stuffed now :-(

    #1291769
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    Being a strong stayer is never a bad thing in a champion hurdle Ham. Look at some of the previous winners- Sublimity, Hardy Eustace, Rock on Ruby. No doubt they were taking on more brilliant horses who were strongly fancied to beat them. Harchibald traded at 1.01 in Hardy Eustaces 2nd champion win.

    Anyway I’ve said enough about Yanworth. Just hope I haven’t jinxed him and he’ll probably get stuffed now :-(

    Id agree with that, good luck with your bet

    #1291776
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    It’s funny how so many see it differently.

    I had to find myself disagreeing with the At The Races Verdict writer, who said that Buveur D’air’s last 4 wins prove he is much improved. He won at Aintree by a neck from Petit Mouchoir, who came into the race rated 7 lbs inferior, at odds of 40/1. Buveur D’air then won two Novice Chases at odds-on, unconvincingly enough to warrant a switch back to Hurdles where he beat palm trees at odds of 1/4F.

    I see nothing there that guarantees improvement. Buveur D’air went down 1 lb for the Aintree run but has somehow risen 6 lbs, presumably based on his last run, where he faced Irving as the deemed biggest threat as 2nd Fav. Irving was rated 160 going into that race but it was no secret that he was highly unlikely to run anywhere near that mark. Irving has already been dropped to 155 and based on his latest effort you could probably lop another stone off that mark comfortably. Few horses can have run as dismally, as many times, as Irving and he’s not reliable as a yardstick to my mind.

    Buveur D’air may indeed improve but it worries me that this race was not the plan at the start of the season and his form this season looks as flimsy as a Chinese Lantern.

    Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.

    #1291786
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    Thanks for the opinions.
    I personally think brain powers handicap Mark is massively inflated. The horses he’s beat this season, he should have beaten in similar fashion on his fair form last season.
    On his novice form he’d have no chance against buveur dair.
    Basically I’ve just gone with last year’s novice form.

    Also Moonracer I’ve thought he was a very special horses since his 1st win for pipe . and on a very rare occasion completely gone with my heart and I genuinely believe aside from faugheen he’s the most talented bumper horse I’ve ever seen. Ever he can translate that form to hurdles is unknown. And regards to his rating, he hasn’t ran in open company so I’m not surprised by his mark. It’s a simular situation to wholestone and West approach.

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    I’d say it’s a significant negative to BP that NJH opted to suppliment BD for the race. I couldn’t have him on my mind for this as his first race outside handicap company. Yanworth lacks the 2m jumping fluency and out of the principles I’d favour BD as a solid EW play.

    In a race like this of so many horses with similar ratings it’s the jockey that makes the difference. Footpad and BD against the field for me.

    #1291792
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    “Petit Mouchoir’s form looks as thin as the ham in a budget sarnie”

    If the Greys improved a mere 5lb from his last run that will see him get up the hill in front Steve imo and I’ll be able to put a bit of Mustard on that Sandwich.. :yahoo:

    #1291793
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    I’d say it’s a significant negative to BP that NJH opted to suppliment BD for the race. I couldn’t have him on my mind for this as his first race outside handicap company. Yanworth lacks the 2m jumping fluency and out of the principles I’d favour BD as a solid EW play.

    In a race like this of so many horses with similar ratings it’s the jockey that makes the difference. Footpad and BD against the field for me.

    BD going for this is far more of a negative for Yanworth than it is Brain Power, based on what both have achieved and where they are in the market

    #1291812
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    I’m sticking with Yanworth with Brain Power as the danger.

    #1291847
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    Ch’Tibello out – pus in foot

    Benn a desperate antepost festival for many, running right up to hours before the off

    #1291849
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    This has nearly worked out perfectly for MTOY EW backers. Just need Moon Racer to go for the Supreme + Buveur D’Air to go back over fences.

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